Ralph and Al, the discussion begs the question of how can one know whether an ESL was voiced to be driven by a tube versus SS amp.Bruce, altho' you've directed the question to Ralph & Al, just my 2 cents: since ESL behave like (giant) capacitors which have impedance inversely proportional to freq, wouldn't it always be true that ESLs are almost always voiced with tube amps (not saying that you cannot or should not use a BJT-based power amp if you want to)? Barring those like Sanders Sound Lab ESLs where the impedance is deliberately kept low so as to use a s.s. power amp.
tube amps and electrostatics
What kinds of experiences have people had mating tube amps to electrostatic speakers (full range and/or hybrids)? I love the sound of both separately, but am concerned about the reactance of electrostats with tube power. I already own the CJ CAV-50 and am looking to upgrade my speakers with something in the $2500 range. Thanx, Dave
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I recieved an email from Rodger. (below in parentheses) Roger Sanders ESL and amp guru is not one to get into heated debates on forums, this is why he has presented his white paper on the subject as simply as he knew how, so it can do the talking for those who can understand it. So if this is wrong by anyone, a white paper should be done by the "one" who has the so called "knowledge" to oppose it. So he can also be then be also laid bare for all the audio community to view, like Roger has done with his white paper. "Hi George, I completely agree with your assessment of the tubes vs. transistors controversy among audiophiles. Transistor amps are the only type that can produce linear frequency response and high output when driving ESLs. But getting audiophiles to understand and believe the technical reasons why this is so is difficult. You have your work cut out for you -- but I support you 100%. I hope that posting my white paper will help some audiophiles gain a better understanding of amplifiers. I do not have the time to post on forums. And in any case, I am not interested in getting into arguments with audiophiles. So I will not be making any posts. However, any interested individual may feel free to contact me directly if he has any questions." Great listening, -Roger" Cheers George |
Ralph & Bruce & Mapman, thanks very much for the nice words. Frogman, great post! I agree completely. Richness, body, and dimensionality are terms I find myself using frequently, I believe in the same sense as you are using the terms fullness and image density. And although I can't formulate a meaningful technical explanation, and I suspect that a good explanation would be a complex one involving a multitude of factors, my perception over the years has been that there is a tendency for those qualities to often be compromised in systems that are designed and assembled in a manner that results in flat frequency response being a leading priority. Best regards, -- Al |
"And although I can't formulate a meaningful technical explanation, and I suspect that a good explanation would be a complex one involving a multitude of factors, my perception over the years has been that there is a tendency for those qualities to often be compromised in systems that are designed and assembled in a manner that results in flat frequency response being a leading priority. " I'll offer up this wonderful resource again here to help with that. Audio Chart Factor in the ear sensitivity curves to help account for why flat may be technically correct but not sound best. |
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