Having second thoughts on Khorns Need help


Hi all: I am starting a two-channel set-up starting with speakers,amp (tube or s.s.),also c.d. player direct to amp to be decided later. I had decided to go with Klipsch Khorns originally and have done research on the net for about 6 weeks now.
I am now having second thoughts, given the type of music I listen to, mostly rock and LOUD! I am a little concerned about whether the Khorns can produce the bass on this type of music to my liking! I will not be buying these for another 6 months,so I am open to other suggestions for speakers.
I am looking for floor standing full-range speakers that can fill a 12W x 24L x8H enclosed with tight,
chest-pounding bass on it's own, without a subwoofer. I listen to Van Halen,Dream Theater,Greenday,Led Zep,Sherryl Crowe, Colin James,Collective Soul,Metallica,etc. No classical,jazz or hip-hop!
I realize that some speakers sound better with certain types of music and the electronics,(source and amp), plus the room have an effect on how a speaker sounds! I guess what I am looking for(asking), is a pair of speakers that play "rock" well! I can go up to $6500 for a pair. Amp and source to be decided later, depending on the type of speakers! Interested in all comments!Thanks, Huck
huck55
for 6500 i would invest in an avantgarde uno ,way way better than a khorn in my experience ,had khorn for few months ,no low bass
hi,

You can buy used Khorns for 2000 on ebay and get the crossovers updated by BEC, a member of the Klipsch forum, for a couple of hundred. For the price they are unbeatable. I have Cornwalls, 15" woofer, rated to 35 hz, but believe me they rock the house at ear numbing levels ( 100 db/watt sensitiviy at 1 meter )with 80 tube watts driving them. The K horns are 104 db. Unbelivallbe dynamics and that is what rock is all about.

Name another speaker that's been in production for almost 60 years. That says something.

Larry
hi.

" I dont understand the fascination with klipsch..... there bright and sound like a PA. Why not Legacy, B&W or Triangles Celius...... Theses have great bass and sound more like music then Klipsch..... So look around and go listen and see for yourself.."

because they sound like they come out of a box, a KHorn fills the room, no box visible.

Larry
the man wants to 'rock' and 'rock loud'. he's concerned khorns will not deliver the bass. they will of course. as far as 'ice picks' go, most of the rock shows i have attended(inside and outside) in the last 10 years have sounded pretty darn good. khorns also excel with jazz at low and high volume levels. look, at home i have listened to gradients, heresys,castles,jbls and advents now for several years, and find them all worthy of all types of music. when 'rockers' stop over they always want to hear my system with the heresys. for nearly three years i lived with a pair of belles and found them spectacular for pretty much everything except classical.as far as other non klipsch horn designs go, other than some vintage jbl products, i'm not a believer. richard lloyd, charles lloyd buck dharma, bb king, les mcann, the rolling stones, through duos or solos....i'll pass....strictly for acoustic-female-warble-lounge-jazz of the in-store demo variety. just to be fair, some rock shows i have gone to did sound like 'ice picks'. they can't all be pleasant. after all, it is rock and roll....
I own La Scalas a different beast no corner neeed but the exact same drivers and 104db efficiency. I also own a variety of other speakers. Klipsch bass will not be in your face except for the fortes and such unless you feed them big power. The woofers are 15" most of the efficiency is in the mid range horn. I have heard them play with 3 watt amps. Trust me the really won't move untill you put a true (Class A 100 watts or Mac 200wpc for example.) power amp on them. If you like you bass clean and fairly reserved get the Klipsch with ordinary amps otherwise get different speakers you sound like a guy who would like a sub. I grew up on Hereseys which I still have and keep the big klipsch around when I want an effortless Rock out but bass is not their strength. If you want warmer loud bass I would seriously consider the Fortes and still get the klipsch volume. Forget about warm musical speakers when your trying to play Bad to the bone or life is a highway. The klipsch will blow your hair back with the right amps. If you like looser bass and big sound take your pick Montanas,VPMS, Legacy, but they all do that woo-woo thing.