VAC 160iSE integrated with NOLA speakers


Given the superb home audio that I have been enjoying recently thanks to my new VAC 160iSE integrated coupled with my NOLA Metro Grand Reference 2 speakers and Synergistic Research cabling/power, I thought I would post a few brief comments about my set up for those who might be looking into any of these products. When making my recent amplification changes the enormously talented team at VAC gave me open and very insightful advice, as I hear they always do to anyone trying to set up a system with products of his design. By the way I understand that there will be a very similar VAC/NOLA set up by Mike Oltz of Xtreme Fidelity (who sold me my VAC160iSE) will be exhibited at the upcoming September 2014 audio show in Brooklyn, so there is an opportunity for anyone interested to hear this set up for themselves.

VAC’s 160iSE integrated puts out 85 wpc just like the original 160i, differing from the original in having (as I understand) a superior transformer, and also a special phono stage (that I have yet to use). It uses trickle down technology from VAC’s statement products. I had and loved the VAC 300.1a and Renaissance Mk3 preamp before the 160iSE. Given that my 87dB NOLA Metro Grand Ref 2 speakers don’t need the extra power, I decided to trade them on Audiogon for the 160iSE especially after hearing from Kevin Hayes at VAC that the new integrated performs in some ways at the level of VAC Statement products.

Having had the VAC160iSE at home now for two or more months or so, I can only say that the sound it produces in my system is truly fabulous – superb, open, rich mid-range without any edge and full of presence, great clean high frequencies. And I never find myself missing anything in the bass area compared to what I got from my NOLAs using my old higher powered VAC electronics. By the way, the NOLA Metros reach down into the low 20 hz region. I should also say that my room measures about 21 feet X 14 feet X 8.5 feet, and I understand that for larger rooms I might need more power or more efficient speakers.

The VAC160iSE definitely outperforms in very gratifying ways my previous, already superb VAC separates. And while I don’t really know the ultra high-powered VAC Statement system, I have heard it with NOLAs similar to mine, and based on that I would tend to echo Kevin’s insight about the 160iSE relative to those amps, although of course there is a big difference in the wpc output which probably has an impact in some ways. Since it needs far fewer tubes and has all its tubes out front, it is friendlier both cost-wise and logistically for tube swapping.

I should also say that I also very much like my NOLA Metro Grand 2s, with their open, 3D and natural yet detailed sound, and their (from all that I have heard) unequalled way with vocals. They are an excellent match with VAC amps. I understand that NOLA has a brand new upgraded Metro Gold version (newer even than the Gold version he introduced last year) that is a significant advance over earlier Metros. So I am looking forward to hearing those in September at the Brooklyn show.

My cabling is SR Element Tungsten, and I also use SR’s PowerCell8 Mk 3 which is a very helpful thing in NYC. I have had extremely positive outcomes using SR’s innovative UEF technology based bullets, HFTs, FEQ, ECTs, XOTs, etc. Their excellent products definitely work very “synergistically” with the rest of my set up.

Perhaps those with similar audio set ups or preferences have suggestions of interest for me. Look forward to those.

Thanks
agriculturist
I'm not really looking for sweetness in the midrange anyway Agriculturist. I had plenty of that with my Cary SLP-98P F1 and VAC PA 35/35 amp.

I'm looking more for a natural midrange, not really a sweet one. The 160i does do a very nice job in that regard. Perhaps the SE version does a better job, and one day I may look into that possibility, but not now. Besides, I'd hate to think about being without my amp for a few weeks of shipping/mods, etc.

I think there is about a $6K difference in price between regular and SE version? As far as I know, $2K of that is the upgraded MC phono stage and balanced inputs options that are availible for the 160i, but come standard on the 160i SE. Then the other $4K is in parts upgrade, of course adjusting all numbers for dealer markups.

I have not had the opportunity to hear a 160i SE in comparison with my 160i.

Cheers,
John
Agriculturist,
I almost purchased a 160i in 2011 however at the time I could not afford it. I've always admired the VAC product line. From what I've read about the 160i SE, it just souinds amazing!
I ended up with an Allnic 1500 integrated 300B.
I have read good things about that. I am sure you have a very good amp for your purposes Lak. 300Bs are said to be very special tubes and I am sure the Allnic design is great.
Has anyone tried running 6550's in their 160i in place of the KT88's? A friend of mine sent me a new quad of ARC 6550 tubes. I e-mailed Kevin a couple weeks ago, but got no response. He was probably tied up with CES. I don't want to just plug them in and gamble. :^)

Also, anyone using upgraded fuses? I'm tempted to try one of Audio Horizons Platinum Reference fuses.

Cheers,
John
I don't believe 6550 can be used in the Vac and the AH fuses are the real deal, I have them in all of my components and yes, they're better the SR.