Audio Physic Virgo II vs Avanti III


To my ears A.P. Virgo IIs are the best speakers I've heard. Virgo owner who have auditioned or upgraded to Avanti IIIs, what are your thoughts? Is it worth the $$$.
Thanks, Greg
gandme
I think whether you "upgrade" from the Virgo II to the Avanti III depends on whether you have a listening room that will let the Avantis shine. That is, big enough with space around the speakers to let them do their thing. If so, then I agree that the Avanti III will provide a performance level worthy of the money spent, but if not, the Virgo II is pretty darn good....
Philnyc,

You nailed it. Both are wonderful but application is critical. I have a dedicated 17x25 listening room which gives the Avantis room to open up.

-Wendell
My room size is 22'x 30' half the ceiling is 10' and half is 20', into a loft. I also have a room attached to the rear of the listing area that is 12'x14'...so lots of air to fill! I added 2 Rel Storm IIIs to give me the missing octive. I don't think I would sell my Virgos. But it would be great to listen to Avanti IIIs with out dishing out 6+ grand for a used pair!
Does anyone run there Avanti IIIs bi-amped? That would be interesting to hear!
I also sent an Email to Joachim Gerhard. I'm just curious to know if the Avanti III is his design.
Thanks for all your input, Greg
I'll chip in with Wendall and Philnyc - if you've got the room to do an AP nearfield setup, the Avanti's are indeed worth the dinero, imo. They'll ask you take care in their setup but when they are right they do disappear and yield the best soundstage my ears have heard. I've got the Avanti Centuries which I chose after going in to hear the Virgo - I've always like the Virgo, but frankly it was no contest. Linear response, vitality and drive, excellent at resolving inner harmonic detail, and revelatory of whatever is upstream. Never heard 'em with SS and know they respond well to good tube gear. Disinclined to lump speakers into music genres, I'll make an exception and say for me the Avanti works its magic best with classical music.

I'm told the latest iteration of the Avanti (billed as the 'new' Avanti 3 on the AP Web site) is not designed by Joachim Gerhard. Kindly post back if you get a response to your e-mail - I'd be interested in Joachim's comments.
I did get a response for Joachim Gerhard. He said he was the designer for Virgo I & II. On the Avanti III, he was one of the designers. Spending most of his time Marketing. Sold Audio Physic in 2004. Now it's Sonics by Joachim Gerhard Design.
..........I do have the room size. It's a sickness!
Greg