watt puppy 7 / sophia?

I find myself in a similar position as Karmapolice. I recently listened to the WP8s and Maxx2. I own the WP 7s and Watchdog II. The Maxx2 is a better speaker, but as with all things, one has to justify the cost. The WP8s are better sounding than the 7s, but not as different as they would like you to believe.

The fact is, there really aren't that many people spending over 10K for speakers. Karmapolice, I have found in the past that it is very difficult to sell WP speakers even when the price is lowered. I have always had to have my Wilson dealer handle the sale for me. It appears that when people are spending this much money, they are not willing to take a chance with a private party unless you give them away. Check out the prices on other expensive speakers being offered on Audiogon.

Steve

To Kharma Police

I have to agree with you on your WP vs Maxx assesement, If you add a really good subwoofer to the WP the diffferences grow quite small. Obviouly the taller speaker will have a bigger soundstage.

Please don't think that I am anti WP because of my strong support of Usher. I have sold more WP than probably anyone on the planet, and I still love the speakers, I am just pissed off on Wilson's never ending price increases which are just not justified based on the difference in parts! $22,000.00 is a substantial amount of money for a pair of speakers.

Yes, the Wilson Watchdog is a big improvement for the WP7. I still feel that the Maax2 goes far beyond the WP7+Watchdog combination in performance.

Steve

I have have spent time with both models. The 7.1 is much better.

However, neither speaker even makes my top ten. And at their prices they should. My Wilson dealer listen's to ATC's at home, which he also sells, and so do I. They are better and not just better for the money.

$15,000 is a BARGAIN for the WPs??? LOL...not in my book.
My perspective is different, though...
I knew Dave when he was in Novato, California and I lived in San Francisco. He sold the WATTS through DB Audio in Berekely, the same establishment that Garth Leerer, now importer and owner of Musical Surroundings, started.
I purchased the WATTS in 1986,and had series, I, II and III with Puppies I and II. In fact, according to Dave, I was the first non-Wilson employee to ever hear the Puppies. I was just lucky: Dave set up my Goldmund Studio turntables for me.
The WATTS at that point were 4400. When the Puppies came out, they were $3300. So, put into perspective, since 1988, the WPs, now the standard-bearer (and I'm thrilled for Dave that he made it!) has more than tripled in price. I know as well as anyone alive, and better than many, what an optimally set up pair of WPs sound like, but they're expensive as heck. That's the part that bothers me.
I've recently purchased a pair of 718s, which haven't arrived yet. If they even sound terrific, I'll be happy. Haven't heard them yet, but that's ok. It didn't break the bank.
So, the WPs are great speakers -- and now they're legendary -- but I could never call them a bargain, given my historical perspective of them.