Another Zu Thread


Sorry - I'm sure this is in the archives, but I've been reading them for several hours and haven't come up with anything super definitive.

Can anybody comment on what setup works best with the Druids and/or the Definitions? I have read >10ft to the listener for the Definitions.

Does the floor material matter? I have read that they need to be placed on hard surfaces, not carpet - true?

They appear to work in a fairly standard triangle pattern - separated by X feet, user seated Y feet away.

Toe in? Do these speakers do the "head in a clamp thing" or does it support multiple listeners reasonably well?

Distance from back / side walls?

Any help would be appreciated, either in direct answers or point me to a thread that discusses all the physical setup issues.

-Kirk
kthomas
Okay, I will jump in.. First off I will say that the definitions in specific work well on hardwood, possibly a little better response than directly on carpet, but probably cause the floor resonates a little better. However truth is being on hardwood with a rug out in front of them have been the best overall that I have experienced just kill the first point reflection with some type of rug.

I have used the factory supplied spikes.. #1 they are about at least an Inch too LOW for me.. Now I have used Sistrum Stands and Both types of Audiopoints, the 1.5" and 2" versions.

Stock spikes makes them sound far more Muddy, and almost Hollow compared to getting them up a little higher and or with better vibration control on heavier spikes, This is my opinion and might not be completley a rule of thumb in every single acoustic environment. But I lost a bit of impact and 3 Dimensionality with the stock spikes of both the version cut off tips and with the tips Zu can supply.

Solid Brass spikes were far Better feel in the room than the Steel Nubby spikes supplied. Why? Don't know, better energy transfer? Just better Height? Or just better Mass? Well the brass are probably 10 times the weight, they are over 1.5" higher using the 2" spikes as well.. You equate why or how, but yes the Spikes sound quite different no question on that.

The cabinets vibrated much more on the Sistrum stands, the stands worked best on hardwood, but were pretty bad on carpet...

The 2" heavy solid brass spikes sounded the best in all configurations more or less, and they seemed to really eliminate any excess cabinet vibrations as well as bring the tweeter up to 37" vs. 35.5". I hated spending the money on them but they were just better. Experiment its pretty easy, Oh and Flat on the floor with NO spikes I thought would definatley obtain the most increase in Fullness or something and make the room Shake more, well Nope.. On spikes were always better and cleaner Bass and Midrange output whether the stock or Heavy brass spikes were used. I have never tried them on blocks of solid wood so I have no comment.
Thanks Undertow. You said it better than me. Yes indeed as far as the bass and midrange go. Macrojack order 8 spikes from Starsound. A couple hundred bucks. You splurged for the Def Pros, why not hear what kind of bass your Defs are capable of. Don't like them? They will refund your $$. I don't believe you'll want a refund. Wait 'til you hear what your midrange and bass sound like. Then tell me how Zu wouldn't put their speakers on inferior spikes?
We're the smallest cheerleading squad on the planet and just like a cheerleading squad, we're undermining our energies by focusing on that boy "Spike".

This is a discussion for way down the road, like when the OP actually has the speakers. FWIW, I'm using the stockers on carpet on concrete and they aren't muddying up anything. Now, going from an audiophile-type amp to a Crown on the bass array, that's another story.
Who is OP? I was simply giving a breakdown of my own experience, not really defending warrenh or anybody.. Unfortunatley right now I have Carpet on concrete in my new room and on the wood floor they were much better in that respect, but this is just a preference..

And Trust me I did not think they were muddy or losing impact until I heard them on the different spikes opposed to the Stock.. then it was fairly apparent you could be missing something, Hey I would have never thought this myself believe me it just happenedÂ…

I spent about 3 weeks going crazy moving and switching between spikes cause I did not want to think that Brass would have better effect.. I actually moved from an Audiophile costly amp on the bass arrays to Crown myself and had very good results, but this was well after my Room change and spike change.. Always a better tool to do the Job and its just being lucky or finding it that makes this more interesting.