Speakers for a smaller room/moving issues...


Been looking for apartments/condos/houses to rent in New York as I am moving back there shortly. In other words-- I am moving out of my rental house with its adequately sized listening room/den into a potentially more cramped crib- possibly with neighbors behind an adjoining wall or two.
I've been privy in this search to all kinds of rooms-- small, big, oddly shaped etc. And of course, I am considering all kinds of speakers-- planars (so as not to piss off the upstairs and downstairs neighbors as much as box speakers), smaller monitors in case my room is like 13 by 14 or something and so forth.
Alright already- I'll come out with it! I guess what I really want to ask forum members doesnt exactly pertain to a particular speaker rec at all--
Rather, when you guys move, or for that matter, when you chose your current home or apartment, was your 'listening room' a primary consideration?
I mean, my realtor barely understands my needs in this regard and seems a bit miffed at this point regarding my 'listening room neurosis.'
But what can I do? Move into a small condo and buy a Hello Kitty boombox? What did YOU do? (And DONT say "gave up the hobby"-- otherwise you wouldnt be reading this in the first place! Clever, eh?!)

PS- Jaybo, I love your 2 or 3 word answers; please feel free to participate multiple times!

abramsmatch
I've recently read some reviews of the Magnapan "wings" on-wall planars that were very favorable. Of course, they would require a small sub to work at all. I also saw a small pair of Maggies at the AKFest and they were pretty good. I don't know if they were MMG-Ws on small stands or if they were MC-1s. Regardless, they were very good sounding, only about 18" off of the wall behind them and took up very little floorspace. They also used a very small sub which you may be able to place discretely in your room.

Don't know if you have the room for them, but I recently heard a pair of JMLabs Micro Utopia BE speakers at a friends house. They were outstanding! They only lacked a bit of bottom end, but my friend had them place 1/2 way out into the room. They may have the required bottom end if placed closer to the wall. In my friends's room, they were one of the best speakers I've ever heard.

Enjoy,

TIC
Went through room size reduction a while back with quite a few speakers making an appearance. You don't specify price so here's my take.
We moved into an apartment while waiting for the house to be completed and I was lucky enough to have a dedicated room albeit extremely small. I had been using Meadowlark Audio Shearwater Hot Rods prior to moving and they were way too big for the room. I bought a pair of Totem Model Ones with great expectations. Sorry to say they just didn't suit me or maybe the Portal Panache I was using wasn't a good match.
Out they went and in went my trust Kestrel Hot Rods (kept in the closet in reserve). They were perfect for the situation. They are the best speaker I have owned at low listening levels in small rooms. They just sound right no matter what amp I've used with them. Another plus for the Kestrels is ease of placement. It's more difficult to make them sound bad than vice a versa.
My second choice for small space is the Silverline Audio SR-11. You need to find the correct stand height, but once you nail this down, they do sing sweetly. Also good at low level listening.
Lastly, the Proac Response 1.5. That's what I'm listening to currently. The build quality of these small floor standers is exceptional. Sound is wonderful once proper placement is achieved. Not sure where they rank in the small room department but so far it's pretty high.
One more thing since I've gone this far. I find that even in small spaces a pair of floor stand speakers is preferable to monitors. Either the Proacs or Kestrels take up less less real estate than the tiny SR-11s on good stands.
Good luck with your apartment hunting.
I have Harbeth Monitor 20s (HL-P3es2 clones) in a 11 X 12 room.
Excellent. Low level dynamics are fine. Using a Naim Nait 5i.
BTW, here is a partial list of speakers I have tried in my above mentioned room with good results:

Monitors:
Joseph Audio RM7si
Neat Petites
PMC DB1+
Aerial 5
Linn Tukans
Audio Note Kspe
Dveore Fidelity Gibbon 3
Epos M5

Floor standers:
Totem Arros
Devore Fidelity Gibbon 8
Neat Elite
Spendor 5se

So you see, small rooms may be difficult, but not impossible.
I was once in your shoes, moving to NYC and wondering how this is going to affect my system. I have moved around quite a bit, but NYC is home now, so I've been able to stabilize my system and I think it is 'there'. In the past I have always been happy with 2 way monitor type speakers because they were easy to pack/ship and easy to integrate into any type of room. Do not feel bad about your 'listening room neurosis', you just understand what your priorities are, and your real estate agent should be made aware of it. Any good agent adapts to their customer's requirements, and believe me, here in NYC, they're grown ups and can handle most requirements of any kind (they see them all). If your current agent cannot handle your requirements, then get a new one?

But to get back to speaker recommendations, you are in the sweet spot because you have so much to choose from. I have settled in with the Wilson Duette speakers. I like these because of their resolution and frequency range. Their lower end is very very nicely rolled off just at the point where you would get yourself into trouble with your neighbors if they went any lower. They come 2 sets of jumper cables/resistors based upon how you want to set them up. Basically one set of wire is for an open room configuration where you have lots of space and your speakers are in the ideal configuration out from walls. The other set of wire is for non optimal setup, where your speakers are closer to boundaries - this is how I have mine setup. Basically the difference is sound is the 'close boundary' setup brings the presentation closer into the monitor, as if the entire stage has been pulled in closer to the speaker. Which really suits me because I am setup in the 'nearfield' listening mode due to a small listening room.

The Wilson Duette does demand a lot of your upstream gear however, so you have to be very cautious of equipment matching. The speaker will reveal any shortfalls in your wire, components, and setup.

The speaker is really quite flexible too, it has an outboard crossover so if you wanted to go with an active 2 way system, that is an option.

Properly setup, this speaker is very very good with small spaces. I think after living with the speaker for a while now, I have them optimally setup, and I'm very happy with the results.