Small sub

I know the JBL L8400 isn't a brand name to deserve to be mentioned here but I'm curious if anyone has experienced with it? If possible, how is it (in many aspects) compare with the MiniVee?
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I'm too looking for a small subwoofer (in CHERRY color) mainly for music. My room size is 16x16x8.

James SW20,
What's your room size?

I use a M&K KX12 with my spendors,it is a great little sub.It is always on ebay for $400.00 new with shipping give it a try.

Von Schweikert VR1 is what you described.

I hate small subs. My sunfire actually danced around when pushed hard. To get good performance out of a tiny box is hard. Also, even though they are small, it doesn't mean that you can just "hide" it. Shoving it in a corner or under something else will hurt the sound.

I had much better sound out of an 8" energy than the sunfire. The energy didn't try to compensate for lack of size or power. However, once going to a 15" velodyne, I'll never go back.

Good point for your sub you need to consider room volume H x W x D = cu ft. This is important you need a big enought sub to pressureise the room or it will be point less, actually you shouldn't determine the sub size the room should. Also you need a big enought cone to get the low notes 21 hrtz is usally good watch the specs on small subs they just never sound deep to me ot the ones that get that low have big distortion at volume. Last there is a guy you may want to google craig's subs he seems to of dedicated his life to nothing but testing subs.