Avalon Eidolon Diamond price

When I was a dealer in the 70s and 80s the Orion was a joke, prices MUCH lower than street prices. Dealers [not me] would keep it under the counter so they could offer low trade ins. But try to get THEM to sell you a used component for the listed price. Maybe its gotten better, but then it was strictly a tool to fleece the customer. Used prices have always varied wildly, even in the same store; and local markets are quite different in which things sell best.

Johnax I just sold a pair of Diamonds in that color so email and I will tell what price I got for them.

I haven't found Agon's bluebook to be off by "multiples." At worst a lot of the stuff selling now, is usually at or 5% below the lowest recent sales. Not necesssarily but in many cases. I've bought and sold a few things and keep up with other equipment pretty closely and it really isn't that far off. I've got Mcintosh, Bel Canto, Aerial equipment and have owned and sold other brands (Dynaudio, Rega, Krell, Cary and so on) and it hasn't been off more than 5% or 10%. At worst it's a good starting point. I think one thing that's hurt it a little is the way sales work and feedaback work now.

Wireless200, I have paid the fee for the Blue Book several times, although currently my subscription has run out. I have found it to be reliable for more frequently traded items, perhaps lower priced items also. I suppose less frequently traded higher priced items have more variability in the sales prices. Anyway, thanks all for your thoughts. John.

I have just had a brief perusal of the BlueBook. Some things are indeed better marked. My amps and speakers, in both systems, seem to be in the ballpark of where things trade or would trade, even though I rarely see them trade (other than one set of amps, which I occasionally see). The prices and pricing methods for all things analog and old, however, seem to be way off - miles and miles in some cases. I, for one, will take any and all Technics SP-10Mk3s in working condition at 2x BlueBook. And when I look at ZYX carts, the Bluebook shows all current prices at exactly half of original MSRP plus or minus $10-15 (no matter where it is on the pricing curve), and that cannot be coincidence. I recently looked at analog stuff because I started looking at offering equipment on Audiogon for the first time and I was flabbergasted at what I saw (or did not see - many products just aren't there).