Update on my Coincident Dynamo 34SE


Hi everyone,

A while back many of you gave me guidance on some hum issues I had with my new Coincident Dynamo. I ended up sending it back to Coincident for service. They said the filter caps were the problem and replaced them. I got it back today, plugged it in, and….the hum started up right away. It is not only just as bad, now it's equally bad in both channels (it was worse in the right channel before). I have to imagine that the techs listened to the amp after changing the filter caps, so perhaps this level of noise is normal?

I'm somewhat new to single ended tube amps, and I know that there is some hum associated with them. However, I can hear the hum from 20 feet away. It makes headphone listening impossible. It's also not going to work for near field listening at my work desk. From about 8 feet away in my listening chair, the hum is audible during very quiet passages and between songs. I guess it's just not meant to be...

I guess this falls under the "live and learn" category.

Scott
smrex13
As far as I have been able to determine, the buzz is exactly the same regardless of where I plug it in, what's plugged into it, and whether it's through headphones or speakers. When I start it up there's no buzz for the first few seconds, and then the buzz begins. It sounds like the coils in a toaster oven heating up, for lack of a better description, but it stays constant for as long as the amp is on. I have tried two sets of tubes in it as well.

Any more thoughts?

Thanks,
Scott
Is the hum just out of the woofer? If so...it is most likely a grounding or ground loop issue. Put a cheater plug on the amp and see what happens. A buzzing tranny is most likely mechanical only and has no impact on noise coming out of the speaker.
Bill (Grannyring), I'm doubtful that it's a ground loop issue given that exactly the same symptoms occur when nothing is connected to the amp's inputs as when a component is driving those inputs. But it can't hurt to try a cheater plug to defeat the AC safety ground, and see what happens.

On the other hand, though, it seems conceivable to me that these symptoms might result with some designs BECAUSE there is no safety ground, due to a wiring problem in the house (or in this case, the apartment building). And also if the zero ohm connection that should exist at the breaker panel between AC safety ground and AC neutral is a significantly higher impedance, due to corrosion, looseness, etc.

Therefore I second Seikosha's suggestion of trying the amp at a friend's house, if possible. Or at least checking the outlets with a multimeter or an outlet tester. Post back, Scott, if you'd like further details on how to do that.

I'm assuming, btw, that the outlets are 3-prong types. Let us know if that is not the case.

Finally, regarding what appears to be a suggestion above to try the amp with no speakers or headphones connected: As most are aware a tube amp having output transformers should not be operated without a load. Otherwise there is a risk of damage or degraded long-term reliability to the output transformers and/or the output tubes, as a result of "inductive kickback." Although it is unlikely (but not totally impossible) for that to be a problem if no signal is being put through the amp.

Best regards,
-- Al
I have had problems like that a couple of times. One I traced to faulty RCA plugs.
Another clue - the buzz is now stronger in the right channel. I swapped the tubes from right to left and it continues to be stronger in the right channel. Damn, this is frustrating…I will try it at a friend's house or at work and let you know how it goes.

Thanks,
Scott