B&W 'New' 800 Series

When you are able to create diversity in stage height the music comes to you differently.

It is my living and I am addicted to music, but I understood that for most people it is very difficult to create it.

Height speakers for Dolby Atmos/Auro 3D only will work when your amp/speakers both can create stage depth and width.

B&W is a big company, but this doesn't garantee them to create speakers who can give you a huge holographic stage.

I think they need new people and other materials and systems to create a speaker which can build a 3D stage. I also think that the D4 series will look differently than the D3 series look today. Mark my words!

"When you are able to create diversity in stage height the music comes to you differently."

I actually agree. And getting proper vibration isolation under the source components especially and hopefully under EVERYTHING will go a long way in achieving the ever expanding sphere of the recording venue, what we commonly call soundstage, including the dimension of height, do often missing in action. In fact, what's revealed eventually, after much aftermarket puttering around, is how well organized and de-interleaved everything is.

"Mark my words!" Do we have to? There are so many. Sometimes less is more...

Bo, your enthusiasm comes across as a little preachy and dogmatic. I am happy you found a formula for putting together a sound system that you like. But, it's not like you invented fire. There are many routes that lead to the destination. Your's is but one.

We are dealer of Stillpoints. Mann they can do things what you never can create by buying an amp, speaker or source of 100.000 dollar.

A better timing ( what stillpoints also do) create much more precision. Instruments and voices become more apparent. The space is getting bigger but the black level is getting higher as well.

You need to understand what each part in your set does, before you can create stage depth and width.

We are not even talking about stage height, this is a league on it's own. It even influences the sound when 2 voices come toghter. Beside the blending of voices you still can hear were they are at the recording.

When people of Auro3D/Dolby Atmos talk about 3D and height, I always spoil there part. And I will explain in details why we are listenign to 2D sound. After my explanation they are always quit. This is the level of audio these days. Customers get stuppid information of these people.

I give you the reason why the Monitor Audio ribbon tweeter outperforms dome tweeters.

First of all voices and instruments are sharper focussed and they are more physical apparent.

The can create easier depth and width compared to a dome tweeter.

The most fun part is that it is able to project voices and instruments even in front of the speaker. This is combined with projecting the music beside the speakers.

When you listen to speakers with dome tweeters, the voices and instruments stay more at the front line of the speakers.

I give an example: Miles Davis; Kind of Blue DSD by the Lumin S1: It brings you back to 1959.

You are there in the space of the recording. You hear the differences in heights of the recording. They were one of the first to use microphones this way.

The piano on the left side sounds more like real bur also gets a shape. The drums is fully free at the left side. It plays beside and in front of the speaker. And you hear the heights of the high hats in the space.

The ribbon tweeter can create much more space than a ribbon tweeter can. Beside this the focus is sharper. Not even for free I would want a speaker with a dome tweeter.

Audio is using the properties to the max. The ribbon tweeter gives me much more space and diversity to use.

The reason why I think B&W will sooner than normal chance the series is the reaction of people I heared. I think they took too much risk with the looks. Even most of the B&W minded people prefer the older look. I know many B&W users and I asked them at the shows.