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D-Mob and Bong-o, I agree on the high end pizza being an oxymoron. I grew up in Chicago, where one of the few great foods was Pizza. I love Chicago, great town, but not the best food town in the US, especially in the low to mid price range.

Anyway, Houston has the worst pizza in of anywhere I have ever been. Great food in general, huge diversity because of the huge foriengn population, but man, pizza here sucks. So we have gotte a few of those "High End" pizza places opening in very nice parts of town. I have a problem paying $40 for a pizza. Especially when I think of how you can walk into those little shops off the squares in Rome and get a great slice for about $2.50. Now that's pizza!

I love NY pizza too, same type deal. Different than the stuff in Italy, and much different than the deep dish (can you say Gino's East) in Chicago, but equally as satisfying.

BTW, my company's office in Cali is in Newport Beach, right off of MacArthur. Bongo I owe you at least lunch, but beer and dinner would be better, next time I am there, for my red card rant on the rap thread. I still think rap sucks though.

For exceptionally good Lebanese food, try Carnival Restaurant in Sherman Oaks, CA.

A friend once took a business associate to Carnival because my friend loves the restaurant and wanted to share the experience, but also because the business associate was born in Lebanon. After tasting the food, the business associate told my friend "he had eaten this food before". It turns out, the chef of Carnival Restaurant had been the cook at the business associate's grade school in Lebanon more than two decades earlier! How wild is it for someone to absolutely recognize the flavor of fairly common dishes to be able to trace it precisely to a place and time in one's childhood? That story blew me away.

...btw, Carnival Restaurant has extremely good french fries, and they have very good burgers made of mixed ground beef and lamb.

On the price of pizza...

A good college friend (w/ an MBA) opened Zeppy's Pizza a fairly successful pizza joint in Hermosa Beach on the Pier Walk. Zeppy's makes a deep dish pie that is dough intensive somewhat like a Chicago, but not as greasy/buttery (it is California, after all). He told me that it cost $0.25 per slice for him to make a large pizza even with lots of toppings.

So, I have a real problem with $15-25 "designer personal pizzas" (9") being hustled around Los Angeles these days.

03-12-10: Tvad
For exceptionally good Lebanese food, try Carnival Restaurant in Sherman Oaks, CA.

Tvad, there are a couple of Middle Eastern places I have wanted to hit in The Valley for a long time.

One of my best friends is Armenian and his dad is kind of a Lebanese/Armenian food fanatic. I suggest they check out Mantee in Studio City because of Jonathan Gold's LA Weekly review and they loved it.

Another one is The Hummus Bar & Grill in Tarazana on Ventura Blvd.

But, the one I really want to hit is Itzik Hagadol Grill on Ventura Blvd, it is supposed to be the best of all the Valley ME joints.

In Texas they are
1-Kinkaids FtWorth,TX
2-ALs-Arlington,TX
3-Yankees-Carlos TX
4-Becks-Sugarland
5-County Line BAr Grill-Richmond