Help me understand tonearm/cartridge compatibility, please!


Hi everyone,

Once again I'm seeking to educate myself on turntable set-up issues with the help your vast experience.  I only recently came to understand the importance of cartridge loading, and I think I have a decent handle on that.  However, I have been having issues with some new cartridges that I've tried, and my guess is that it is due to cartridge compliance, something I don't have a full grasp of yet.  The following results have held with two different phono stages:

I have a Marantz TT-15s1.  It comes with a tonearm designed by Clearaudio for Marantz and a Clearaudio Virtuoso cartridge.  After I broke the stylus no on the cart I decided to explore some other carts.  I have gotten a wide variety of results, and I am guessing that compliance is the issue.  The Clearaudio cart that comes with the table has a compliance of 15.  

1.  Denon DL 103r (compliance 5)- very thin sound, almost like someone turned down the bass and turned up the treble on a tone control.   

2.  Denon DL 110 (compliance 8)- excellent sound at very moderate volumes - deep sound stage, clear vocals, quick transients.  However, raising the volume to even average levels results in significant high frequency distortion, enough to make things unlistenable. 

3.  Grado Reference Sonata 1 (compliance 20) - this seems to work fine, without distortion.  Frankly, I like the sound of the DL 110 better, but the distortion has let me to stick with the Grado.

So, I am assuming that the compliance of the two Denons is too low for my tonearm and that I should stick to a cart closer to 15+?  

Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Thanks, and happy holidays!
Scott 
smrex13
Oh, and the rest of my system is as follows:

Naim 5i-2 integrated amp
Harbeth C7es3 speakers
Phono amps: Vincent PHO 8 and Heed Quasar


I'm not familiar with your turntable, but from the Marantz website it appears that it offers line-out only. If that's correct, then it isn't designed to be used with an external phono stage.

I don't see any specs for your pickup arm. Without knowing its mass, there's no way to calculate a proper range of phono cartridge compliance. Perhaps your dealer can help with that.

Phono cartridge compliance should be specified at a specific frequency. Without that detail, the compliance number itself isn't useful.
Denon DL 103r is a MC cart, the sound you are describing sounds like an improper loading issue.

But cleeds is correct, it's not possible to calculate compliance w/o knowing the tonearm mass. Can you find specs on your TT with tonearm since they were sold together?
Scott,

Have you tried adjusting the VTA?

You can check on compliance using the calculator on the Audio Engine website. You will need some information on your arm and cartridge, and that may also be available on their website.

Also as mentioned by cleeds, if you have a phono preamp built in you may be overloading the phono stage.