Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?


The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
pubul57
Yes I would never advise anyone to put a Lightspeed circuit inside any audio equipment, no matter who made it.
But I don't think @audiolabyrinth wants to do that. He says he want to put a Lightspeed Attenuator "on" his phono stage. 

The Lightspeed Attenuator circuit should be by itself, in it's own chassis, and with an outboard powersupply as I make and supply them.
That way the quad matched set of LED/LDR's stay matched, and don't give any trouble at all.
  
Some of these Lightspeed clones getting around with internal transformer power supplies and other heat generating circuits that give large heat swings are asking for trouble and giving it a bad reputation, careless and I don't advise it or them at all. 

Cheers George 
Hi Georgelofi,  thankyou,  the phono stage that I'm considering is the Vincent pho-700 with outboard power supply solid state/tube hybrid mc/mm phono pre-amp,  check it out for me George,  audio advisor sells it,  has the specifications on their site.
George, the specs are mm 47k, mc 100 ohms, 12au7 vacuum tube used in duel triode mode, thankyou 😀
audiolabyrinth

Hi Georgelofi,  thankyou,  the phono stage that I'm considering is the Vincent pho-700 with outboard power supply solid state/tube hybrid mc/mm phono pre-amp,  check it out for me George,  audio advisor sells it,  has the specifications on their site.

Yes thought it was, saw you posting about it in other threads about it. A very nice looking phono stage for the money, looks like they really did some homework designing this.
I found that it is 250ohms output impedance and it has 40db gain for the mm section and 60db gain for the MC section. This will be a great match with the Lightspeed Attenuator.
As some of my customers have the Dynavector 75 which has the similar gain structure and they are over the moon with what they are now getting from their LP's using the Lightspeed with it.

Cheers George  
Hi Georgelofi,  I talked to Joe there at audio advisor,  he said that the Vincent pho 700 does 8 volts max out put,  your unit is passive?, I may put  this on my modified krell 700cx to play with from time to time,  it's 100kohms, however,  it takes 3.35 volts to push,  as you know, I've been pushing that amp with 2 volts running directly from the digital player,  cheers