Also try losing rubber feet and try metal points instead.
Can an old Thorens Table be "Over Dampend" to the point where sound is adversely effected?
I am sure this topic is not new but I would like a new take on it...So the question is: Can one Over Dampen an older suspension chassis Thorens like a 125,145,160,166 etc.? I am only (in this post) regarding the exposed inner wood of the plinth like the base and inner walls. I have heard in some venues that it is easy to over dampen and KILL the dynamics of one of these older tables...Are they referring to more of the damping of the motor, platter, suspension parts etc. basically the metal parts or any damping? What are your thoughts?
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Dear @bdp24 and friends: """
"Over-damped" implies there is an optimal amount of damping....-............... But as a mechanical transducer, why would one want the table itself to add vibrations or resonances of it's own to the tiny vibrations contained in the LP groove? """ I posted same statements several times in this and other forums but audiophiles/we are accustom to the distortions generated for those kind of micro-vibrations and when the vibrations " disappears " then we are talking of dull sound and no verve but in reality there is nothing dull or with out verve, what exist are distortions we are accustom to and things are that we like it ! ! ! ! but I ca't agree more with you. Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
rikintpa Indeed imo - you can’t have a discussion on damping without also discussing absorption, and because we are discussing audio here, also, the type of room / treatments being used. a good read http://www.techniconacoustics.com/how-we-do-it/acoustics-lab/acoustics-101 damping noun technical a decrease in the amplitude of an oscillation as a result of energy being drained from the system to overcome frictional or other resistive forces. ab•sorb take in or soak up (energy, or a liquid or other substance) by chemical or physical action, |
I’m with you on this Raul. The "too controlled" sound some characterize the Rock as possessing is imo the lack of table/arm/cartridge resonances. But then I’m a London user, and it benefits more than most other cartridges from the damping! Geoch, the damping trough actually WAS offered as a separate item by Townshend years ago. It can be added to any table which has it’s platter and armboard attached to the plinth. In other words, it can be added to any non-suspended table, and even suspended designs such as the VPI HW-19. It obviously can not be used on the Linn, Acoustic Research, or any other suspended sub-chassis design where the platter and arm are separated from the plinth by springs. The little tube that is mounted on the arm’s headshell and is immersed in the trough’s damping fluid MUST move in tandem with the structure the arm and platter are mounted to. If that sounds confusing, one look at the design will explain all. And no, my separate trough is NOT for sale! |
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