Elrog 300b's for sale. Your thoughts?


I noticed this morning an add for the new Elrogs.   I and many others on the forum ran the experiment when the Elrogs were initially launched.   We found the tubes to be superb sonically, but woefully unreliable.  In fact, the early failure rate on those tubes was apparently 100%.  I and others received replacements that were hand selected for suitability in our particular amps.  In fact one individual had 3 pairs fail.  In my case, I went so far as to purchase a PS audio power plant, having been assured that limiting incoming voltage to 115V would ensure reasonable lifetime for the Elrogs.  Two days ago, one of my replacements failed, after having been nursed along carefully.  Honestly, I doubt the tubes had 600 hours on them.  So the Psvane T1s went back in and I began the period of mourning for my deceased Elrogs.  This morning I awake to the siren song of an ad from a reputable dealer who is announcing availability of the new improved Elrogs with a 1 year warranty.   My initial reaction was, "I don't think so.  Someone else can run the $1200 experiment.  Burned once and lesson learned."  But here is the problem.  If all of Elrogs former customers take that approach, the new Elrog will also fail even if the tubes are good for 10000 hours, simply because no one will buy them.    The tubes are so good that it would be a tragedy if that happened.  So the question to all of you who have already been down this road is this?  What would it take for you to give these tubes a try again?
brownsfan
Hi!

For the US and Canada please send inquiries to George Lenz of tubesusa.com.

I will update the elrog.com website in January with prices and order information. Until then drop me an email


Best regards

Thomas
Facing one's critics and being honest and forthcoming is an excellent start in rehabilating one's reputation.  I wish only the best for Thomas and Elrog
Based upon the threads, even on Audiogon, relative to poor experiences with the prior 845 regardless of  whatever  the causes were and the apparent lack of current manufacturing empirical data , I'm having a hard time at this juncture to move forward at the  $1650/pair price tag
I have been considering the Elrog 300b's for my Lampizator Golden Gate Dac but have held off because of all the failures reported by the Lampizator community. Mikelavigne reported success using the 101d,45 setting instead of the proper 300b setting. I wonder what would be the proper setting to use with the new and improved Elrogs. 
Hi!

We have several customers with Lampizator DACs who use the 300B after the major improvement in the filaments in January 2016. None of them have reported any issues. The tubes should be operated like any other 300B. Especially the 45 has a much lower filament voltage than a 300B. So use the 300B setting of your DAC

best regards

Thomas