Fidelity Research FR-64 vs. FR-54


In a prior discussion, I had asked about tonearm suggestions for a Luxman PD-441 table that currently has a Denon DA-307 tonearm and Grado The Reference high output cartridge.  Many suggestions were provided.  A Fidelity Research FR-64 was suggested as a simple replacement.  I'm wondering if the FR-54 would also be good, being that it is mentioned in the Luxman manual in the same category as the Denon arm on there now?
bdunne

Dear chakster, Some try to explain the ''magnetic failure'' by

weakening of the magnets. In particular the lack of the VTF

precision. However Raul recommends the usual VTF adjustment

with counter weights. As a ''bonus'' this way the weight(s) get

nearer to the pivot. For the anti-skate this ''magnets weakening''

does not matter because one is assumed to do without or to

adjust by ear. But I am not sure if and how dynamic balance works.

Dear Raul, Apparently, you would benefit from looking up the English definition of the word "respect".  After that, try looking up "regards".  You may be surprised to learn that you display neither quality.  After that, please re-read any of my previous posts, because it seems to me that you don't read them with any sort of comprehension.  In particular, please re-read my post of 01/27/17, posted at 4:03 PM.  Or, try this, from 01/25/17: 
"Raul, For the Nth time, I am only saying that MY FR64S sounds very good in my second system, which is very low in distortion and includes mostly solid state components in the chain from cartridge to speakers. Not that I agree in any way with your other diatribes, against vacuum tubes. But let's stick to the FR64S: My saying that I like my FR64S in this particular set-up does not mean that I think you are categorically "wrong" in your critique. Got that? I do recognize the theoretical importance of "damping". Until I put the stylus in the groove for the first time, I had no idea whether I would like or dislike the FR64S. I only knew that if I disliked it, I would have no problem re-selling it. But... I like it.

There are many cases in this hobby where components go against this or that widely held belief and nevertheless work well, and it is not always the case that they are perceived to work well only because they produce euphonic distortion. I understand that you hate the FR64S/66S. You are entitled to your feelings. Peace. Out."

Do you really think your system has lower distortion than a pair of Beveridge 2SW speakers directly driven by tweaked Beveridge amplifiers?  I don't.



Hi Ibelchev, Sorry I overlooked your post. I asked Yip to make

my Mint tractor according to Bearwald with 246 mm eff. lenght.

If I remember well Dertonarm also adjusted his FR-64 s with

the same distance as recommended in the mentioned Magazine.

I am not familiar with Feickert Protractor so I can't comment on

this one.

Dear @lewm : Of course I read and understand what you posted but let me tell you something:

first that as Soundlabs ES speakers I ike Beveridge too but this does not means are " perfect " and not only because the ES technology but because the electronics need it to drive it. In the other side you said that mostly the signal pass trhough SS electronics and this means: that’s is not full SS but exist at least one tube where signal pass trhough and not all SS electronics designs has the same quality level.

Now, you as @thekong and several audiophiles leaves in the 30´s using in 2017 that " pre-historyc " tube technology that not only on bass range but all over the audio/music frequency range makes a way higher degradation to any signal than today dedicated SS elctronic devices.
That you and other audiophiles are accustomed to that pre-historyc degraded sound means only that: that all of you are accustomed to a way wrong sound reproduction thank’s to the corrupted AHEE.
Tubes exist because is a market business where the market is not looking for real sound/music quality but colored reproduction and you have no culprit about but your corrupted " teachers ".
Tube manufacturers can’t refuse to make business only because the tube electronics can’t works in better way: $$$ is $$$ and no one cares from where.
Tube technology is one of the main reasons why the high-end just does not grow-up. We all need a NEW AHEE to start a totally new MUSIC enjoying.

In the other side and even if you don’t use any single tube in the system the only way to have an accurate low system/room low distorion quality level is where you have a near " perfect " system/room bass management.

How can you know that bass management quality level?, only if you already experienced in other system/room but yours. You can’t compare nothing if you have not a reference a true reference to compare it.

I read somewuere that you have passive external subs driven by Threshold amp, I think a transmision line design type. Well, I can tell you that it can achive that near " perfect " bass managemnt quality level.

I know that Mr. Beveridge loves transmision line design type, so what?. Any sub desgn type must ve an active design where the SS amplifier can copes exactly the subs driver specific characteristics and your subs are out of this subs main target.

We have to remember two things that are: audio home/system reproduction MUSIC  belongs not to the mid-range but to the bass range and the other issue is that MUSIC is HARMONICS develop by the fundamentals.

Because of all that an many other issues I know that you can aware of the kind of distortions I’m and as I said: is not your culprit. You just can’t do it.

Gentlemans, everything in the human beeen and in the Universe is a constant " times " of changes, almost every second, and we audiophiles decided not to change for the better: to discover the audio/MUSIC world that EXIST and that today AHEE deny to us.

No, you main system can’t help you neither.

I know that no one likes that other people " touchs " each one audio system and when I did it and doing is only trying to help.

Audiophiles are accustom to lkes only what we want to hear when some one talks about one of our system’s link and dislike anything against it. But I don’t post or participate to say what peple wnats to hear but what are my experiences and the why’s about and this self characteristic in my attitude is what made it that I was banned from several net forums elsewhere but here and VE.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC not Distortions,
R.