Which is the Better Tonearm - Pro-Ject or Rega?


Which is the better arm in your opinion, the Rega 251/202 arm that's also found on the Rega clones (Edwards Audio TT1 for example), or the Pro-Ject arm found on the Debut/Essential and Pro-Ject clones (such as the Music Hall MMF 2.2).

Does Pro-Ject's carbon arm (as found on the Debut Carbon) change your position on the comparison?

Thanks!
seadweller
Williewonka, that link talks about weldments and welded joints etc.  Please, this is not relevant to the topic at hand.  I design pressure vessels for a living, I know my materials as well as the quality of castings coming out of China (we buy by the boatload).  I am not going to  argue about elementary material science on an audio forum....believe what you must.  I am out.
Seadweller - 

I am on my 3rd ProJect table and currently have the latest incarnation of the carbon 9cc evolution.

Some of its positive virtues are:
- Rock solid bearings without any slop at all
- Tracks exceptionally well
-Setting up VTA is simple and straight forward
-Simple to adjust perfect channel bias (verified w/ test record)
- Achieves ideal LF resonance range (also verified w/ test record)
- Can typically set up a cartridge perfectly in under 30 minutes (with caveat for anti skate noted below)
- Comes w/ 3 weights to accommodate any cartridge and the included scale is within .05g as compared with a digital force gauge
- stock wiring is pretty good (caveats below)

Some of the negatives
- The tonearm lift and arm wand rest are pretty cheap
- The anti-skate post (fishing tackle) only offers 3 settings so I've always generally set them up w/ too little than too much
- Unless purchased with as a bundle with a table, seems a little expensive for what it is.
- Wiring lugs are very very soft and delicate (common)

After looking up the audiomods tonearm after following this thread, I do like the idea of having the micron adjustment for VTA and it might be fun to put one together from kit.  That said, after reading a 6moons review I personally don't see it as an upgrade (most notably the bearing slop noted).

Take care

Greg
Greg - a comment on the  the Audiomods review by 6Moons - it  was completed in 2012 - Jeff (Audiomods) appears to have taken note of comments from that review - the more recent  arms now come with much better ceramic bearings :-)

I have the Series II with the new ceramic bearing and I cannot detect any "bearing slop" as noted in the review.

Regards...
williewonka - Thanks for pointing that out - Good to know.

Either way the arm seems a bargain now particularly with the recent drop in GBP versus USD - Just might build one up from kit just for the fun of it.

Thanks again

Greg
Greg - even if you don't try the Audiomods Arm - give the KLE Innovations Absolute Harmony RCA's a try on your Project 9cc

They will elevate it to a whole new level of performance

Fightin words you say? Take a look at...
http://image99.net/blog/files/cf662af46f47abf6d812010ad97da98e-49.html
http://image99.net/blog/files/1621fffaa60c22b5f8210f57d628f961-58.html
http://image99.net/blog/files/a8494e8645dea3d750d109f819103099-61.html

I've been fortunate to be able to review most of the KLE Innovations product line over a 2-3 year period (nice being retired) and have even field tested some of them on friends systems.

To date I have not found a product that outperforms their TOTL products. But even their entry level products outperform many big name brands 

And if I didn't have already have the Audiomods arm - I'd take advantage of they weak pound also :-)

Regards, Steve.