Anyone running 9 or 10 speakers in their HT setup?


I am currently running 5.1 and I'm cosidering going with an additional four more full-range surround speakers for a 9.1 setup. Of course it won't be 9 separate channels. My processor(Sunfire Theater Grand 5), only outputs 5.1 discrete channels My processor has outputs for two "side axis" speakers that are matrixed from the front speakers, and it has outputs for regular surrounds and back surrounds. I do know that there is no 9.1 content, but the processor will route the 5.1 signal to the additional speakers. Ever since I saw The Dark Knight at an IMAX theater, I've stayed awake nights trying to figure out a way to replicate the incredible sound that I heard in that theater. My system at home has always sounded as good, if not, better that the sound I hear at comercial theaters...and I've heard some good ones. After hearing the IMAX system, I left with my tail tucked between my legs. I counted six or eight speakers on each side of the room overhead and four speakers in the rear overhead....not counting the fronts and the center channel and the obvious subwoofers. I kind of get the feeling that more is better. I've looked at the layout of my room and I could easily add the additional four surround speakers without ruining my room aesthetics. The additional four surrounds will be mounted 10 feet off the floor as seen in comercial theaters.

The IMAX has changed forever the way I view movies. It is the new Holy Grail of theater sound systems.
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Johnnyb53.....Um, er......you're right. I went back to read up on my player and it does not decode the newer hi-def codecs. Thank goodness you corrected me before I went out and incorrectly and ignorantly bad-mouthed the new formats.

Now, with the Panasonic DMP-50 that you mentioned, it has 5.1 analog outputs. I put on a disc with a 7.1 hi-def soundtrack....if I go thru the 5.1 analog outputs to my processor's analog inputs, will the blu ray player send a signal to all nine of my speakers or just five of them?
I run a IMAX theater so I can tell you exactly what they are doing. It sounds like you were in a smaller joint venture theater (Regal or AMC), because a traditional stand alone IMAX does not use multiple arrays of speakers. Typically they use 6 Full range speakers that are IDENTICAL and ONE huge subwoofer dead center screen. Mine has 8 18" drivers and you can walk inside it. IMAX found that multiple subwoofers actually cancel each other out. The six speaker locations are L-C-R LR RR and Top Screen. Top screen is rarely used. It works well for rocket launches. Some movies have no top screen content at all. The source is is either 6 channel 35mm analog mag tape or 6 channel digital files. All tracks are full range, and there is NO processor. The sub bass track is summed off all 6 channels. All amps are also IDENTICAL except for wattage. Older theaters use modified Bryston amps. All drivers have electronic crossovers. Each 4 way speaker is quad amped. The new theaters are using class D amps. I can't recall the make. I think they sound more digital though. The speakers are custom designed, but they use Electro Voice and JBL drivers. To me they sound like big boxes with horns. Dynamic, you bet. Hi-fi, not so much.

So basically they have been doing a variation of 5.1 for 40 years now. I doubt all those speaker arrays were running for Batman. Those arrays came with Dolby surround. I could be wrong. Not all theaters have the sound system supplied by IMAX. That is an additional cost.

If you add side or rear channels it will make your surround more seamless. Matching amps and speakers are key. Proper speaker placement, acoustic treatment and set-up will make your system sing. I see these basic concepts ignored over and over by pros and joes.
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Thank you Steuspeed! Invaluable info. Yes it was at a joint venture theater. The full sized IMAX theater here in Los Angeles is at the Univ of Southern Calif Museum of Science and Industry. I've never heard of them showing a comercial film there....I've seen several nature-type doucmentaries there over the years. Nothing in those documentaries to challenge the sound system like the Batman soundtrack though.
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You need to see Batman at the REAL IMAX. Multiple scenes are shot in real IMAX and will fill the entires IMAX screen. This is a first for a Hollywood style film. I would be interested in your feedback between the two venues.
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The IMAX screen I saw was six stories high. You could tell when the IMAX shots were on the screen.....the on-screen image filled the entire screen. The 35 mm portions of the movie of course were letterbox style, still outstanding though. Even though the aspect ratios changed periodically during the movie...it was done seamlessly. My buddy didn't even notice that the aspect ratios went back and forth.
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How much bigger is the screen at a real IMAX theater?