Anyone running 9 or 10 speakers in their HT setup?


I am currently running 5.1 and I'm cosidering going with an additional four more full-range surround speakers for a 9.1 setup. Of course it won't be 9 separate channels. My processor(Sunfire Theater Grand 5), only outputs 5.1 discrete channels My processor has outputs for two "side axis" speakers that are matrixed from the front speakers, and it has outputs for regular surrounds and back surrounds. I do know that there is no 9.1 content, but the processor will route the 5.1 signal to the additional speakers. Ever since I saw The Dark Knight at an IMAX theater, I've stayed awake nights trying to figure out a way to replicate the incredible sound that I heard in that theater. My system at home has always sounded as good, if not, better that the sound I hear at comercial theaters...and I've heard some good ones. After hearing the IMAX system, I left with my tail tucked between my legs. I counted six or eight speakers on each side of the room overhead and four speakers in the rear overhead....not counting the fronts and the center channel and the obvious subwoofers. I kind of get the feeling that more is better. I've looked at the layout of my room and I could easily add the additional four surround speakers without ruining my room aesthetics. The additional four surrounds will be mounted 10 feet off the floor as seen in comercial theaters.

The IMAX has changed forever the way I view movies. It is the new Holy Grail of theater sound systems.
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The IMAX screen I saw was six stories high. You could tell when the IMAX shots were on the screen.....the on-screen image filled the entire screen. The 35 mm portions of the movie of course were letterbox style, still outstanding though. Even though the aspect ratios changed periodically during the movie...it was done seamlessly. My buddy didn't even notice that the aspect ratios went back and forth.
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How much bigger is the screen at a real IMAX theater?
That sounds like a big retrofit. Some JV theaters don't have that kind of ceiling height. You would have to go on-line and check screen dimensions. The Boeing IMAX in Seattle is 62' x 82', so you may have seen all there is to see. I have 79' dome. We are not running Hollywood movies.
" I've stayed awake nights trying to figure out a way to replicate the incredible sound that I heard in that theater" (Mitch4t)

There's really a lot more to great sound coming from these "IMAX" systems, than simply MORE SPEAKERS. You are usually dealing with VERY high efficiency, pro, active speaker systems (I think IMAX theater use an "active" speaker array" of some sort - I used to know the names) in these large, acoustically advantageous movie venues, as well.
The fact that there are often "more speakers" in the theater is usually required for better, and more approximate coverage for hundreds of seats. Yes, the multiple speakers makes for even more dynamic ease through out the space - but the real advantage with the speaker technology there is the ulta-high efficieny and power for those systems! These active horn sysms dynamically stomp the living bajesus out of what you find in most passive home systems, indeed! You're looking at some 115-118+ db of efficiency, couple with "active" speaker desings (drivers coupled dirrectly to the amplifiers, with active cross-overs), added with bass management to boot! We are talking serious dynamic realism and capabilities, which make standard home stuff pale in comaparison in reality. That, and they area also using master audio for the sound.
And, yes, the theaters are dealing with some rather sizeable acoustical advantages, as well.
I think you can add up all the variables that comprise the sound you hear in your playback system, acoustical issues, setup options, speaker technologies, bass management and power distribution and efficiency (receivers are more limited than separates amps in terms of power delivery, IME), among other things, and you start running into limitations with most typical home setups - not to mention lack of understanding from most people who setup their own systems, for less than balanced speaker and seating placements, settings, phase issues, etc.(not specificially you or anyone, but most, for sure).
Basically, I'm saying you need to consider what's behind producing "great sound", in-whole, and not just the shear number of speakers in a system - full range, or not.
Actually, that brings up another issue. Simply running large full range speakers in your typical domestic acoustic home spaces, is not simply going to give you advantages. Infact, often if offers dis-advantages along with it. So consider. Full range from passive speakers is often more in-efficient than crossing over to active subs, as is usually the case! Infact, in those EXTREMELY large movie venues, even those otherwise full range 15-18" horn speakers cross over to dedicated subwoofers, for good reason! EFFICIENCY!
I would rather like to see you make sure that you have all your current speakers and your system properly setup, to assure relatively flat response from your listening area, proper phase between subs, speakers, and seats, proper balance of sound, speaker aim, soundstage width/perspective and acoustics. With a proper foundation securely anchored, I think you can then consider more speakers (as long as you can set them up balanced for good sound and coverage, is the key - Note: you can place speakers so they don't properly cover an even tonality and response from all seating positions, real easy)
That all said, you should be able to try experiementing with additional "matrixed" front and back effects speakers to your hearts desire, for maximum envelopement, yes!
Balance is the key however, so remember. You mix that with proper setup, bass management, speaker settings and locations, flat response, perfect phase, efficienc system, acoustics, etc, and you have one heck of a system potential!
So I say "go for it", if you've laid the proper foundation, bassically...you can build your sonic pool of sound from there.
If you want to get additional speakers with your current setup connect Y splitter interconnects to the signal out on your processor to connect 2 amps/speakers to 1 channel. I did this to have 2 center channel speakers under an 8 Ft screen to fill up the center and keep the volume down. I don't have any comment on how this would work on the surrounds
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Naked.......Great post, I appreciate it. Now I can sleep peacefully now that I know what I'm up against.

Somec.....I had already been contemplating just what you mentioned in order to get addional surrounds for more area coverage. My center channel is 25.5 ft from my listening chair, the fronts and rears are 30 feet away. I'm sure with an addional four speakers that I'd get much better coverage. Currently, I have to crank it up pretty good for sufficient area coverage.
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