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Ayon's "Scorpio" tube imtegrated amp vs PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium tube integrated??.

I have considered trying a tube integrated amp. The Prima Luna Prologue Premium has received numerous positive testimonials regarding its sound quality and is considered a bargain at $2399.  Ayon’s new "Scorpian" tube integrated  is more expensive at $4200,  supposedly offers excellent sound quality, but has not gathered many press reviews. .

 Is  anyone familiar with these products??  Are they  reliable over the long haul?? and if so, can either amp  effectively drive any speaker load, including Golden Ear Technology model 7 or the larger model 5.  Or have any problems driving Magneplanar .7 speaker, or any of the Martin Logan speakers.  Thank you  

sunnyjim
samzx12
883 posts
 
This is my opinion of course and without having heard a Raven I find it very far fetched that a Raven just "blows" the other amps out of the water or not even close. You can't tell me that a point to point wired, 65 lb Primaluna Premium integrated or even the Ayon for that matter can't match a 35 lb Raven in bass response. Me thinks the article is pushing the Raven just a tad.  Like I said this is my 2 cents but when the PL and Ayon weigh twice as much this tells me they are better built and can handle bass response and heft better.
aberyclark
594 posts
 
Hi, after more research, I'm leaning more toward PL. I even did some research on Mystere (same company of PL). The reviews of various Mystere products seem to indicate the house sounds is on the brighter side of things. 

I know this may sound "picky", I just get the impression that UTA is a bit "gimmicky (float)" with their marketing. You walk in the store, its 90% Ayon vs the brands on their site. All the AG ads. The AG classifieds that are quite a bit less than price in store. "We'll fly you in for free" etc. a little used car Like. I know that sounds picky.

UA is heavy PL, but the other bands on  Heir site are readily available in their store. 


samzx12
883 posts
 
I have the PL Dialogue integrated and love it. You can change the sound too suit your tastes via tubes plus it's built very well. I talked to Kevin at UA for awhile and never regret buying it. Plenty of reviews and support so funny think you can go wrong. I do agree with your assessment of UTA. 
aberyclark
594 posts
 
Yes. The dealers do mean a lot. Especially, for non big box retail items. I'll probably contact UA this week and decide on the amp that is for me. 
aberyclark
594 posts
 
Looking thru classifieds on AG this morning. Those Ayon ads are really irritating. 
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