KT-88 vs. EL34


Hi. I have a modified Jolida 502 amp (not my main amp) currently using KT-88s and formerly the similar 6550s. Some have suggested that this unit will sound even better, power hit aside, modifying to accept EL-34s. The mod is easy. Anyone find this to be true or is it just another myth? Thanks in advance, Andy8400.

andy8400
Hi Andy -

I would make the case that this is very speaker dependent.  As you may be getting from the other posts, the sound is different as opposed to necessarily better or worse.

Are you still using the AR 4s?  For the longest time, I had the AR 302s as my speaker (latter day AR 5s).  When I used KT88s and 6550s, the sound was more fleshed out, with more force.  The EL34 sound was more delicate & balanced & intimate sounding.  The KT77s and 6CA7s seemed to get the best sound for me.  My amp was (still is) a Prima Luna PL5  

Rich  


First of all, thank you for your replies. I will address all of your questions to date. 
1. Amp is wired as a pentode (or tetrode, depending on how you view beam power tubes) and not triode. Often thought of triode wiring and even single ended using one of the tubes but the power hit would be too great, maybe.
2. Not using AR4x. Those were my wife's college grad presents and have been out of sight for over 50 years (we just celebrated our 50th anniversary). Hooked them up for fun and they worked!
3. I am currently using Canton Karat M70s, woofers facing out. Not too efficient and 6 ohm average. Current amp is SS, a B&K AVR-307 (150w x 7) in two channel analog mode, used for stereo only. I like switching in the tube amp however; its intrinsic linearity is a pleasure to listen to. No edginess (but a little bright). Based on everyone's good advice I would really like to try the conversion to EL34/KT77s. a few resistors and Jond's 4 Gold Lion tubes and I'll be set to go.

I will try to track down the old A-C forums to learn more; Thanks for the suggestion bdp24. Andy8400.



KT-88 or EL34 doesn't matter 1%.  It's all about the overall amp design.  No point in conversions if the basic amp is not a good design to start with. 
bpoletti, you may be right. I had heard however that some, including possibly the above responders, have converted and found the EL34 to sound "better" on the same amplifier so the design wasn't a variable. On the other hand, the outlay of this type of tube amp generally is relatively straightforward. The one important variable that can truly influence the character of a tube amp IMHO is its output transformers because, as an inductor, evenness, peakiness, etc. are most influenced here. It's possible that the different loading that the EL34s place on the primary could account for the differences in sound. What do you think?