Amps Atma-Sphere M-60 Mono blocks OTL design


I just purchased a used OTL Atma-Sphere M-60 mono blocks that I have sent to Atma-Sphere to be upgraded to the current model 3.3 and I also added the option of a higher quality power supply and V caps.

I have sold my old trusted Eggleston Andra 2’s speakers and have built some monitors using Aurum Cantus ribbons (102db) and Aurum Cantus midwoofers (90db) that are both rated as 8 ohm nominal. I have a DEQX Premate and will be crossing over to (2) JL Audio F-113 subs at 80hz.

Currently I am using a solid state high power stereo amp (Pass Labs) that I used with the Andra 2’s.

The Atma-Sphere M-60 is rated at 60 watts class A and is said to work better with higher impedance loads.

It will probably be a few weeks until I get the M-60 and was hoping someone could provide opinions of what to expect.

I listen to late 60 early 70’s classic rock music mostly. Sometimes loud.

ozzy

ozzy
Doesn't using zero transformers defeat the whole point of an OTL amp? It's putting  a transformer in and makes it similar to a non OTL push pull tube amp.
'Defeat' as used in the question above suggests that an OTL is trying to do something that is somehow in opposition to a normal amp with a transformer?

It isn't. What we are trying to do is get as close to the music as we can.

The fact is that the ZERO has a very low turns ratio. Because of this it has very wide bandwidth- wider than almost any amplifier made, tube or solid state. You can't do that with a regular tube amp with an output transformer. You need to start with an amp that already has a fairly low output impedance, and a circuit that is not putting DC through the transformer winding.

The ZERO is really a problem solver- for example, here in Minnesota a lot of people want to use the M-60 with Magnaplanars. Usually they have smaller Maggies, but the M-60 is usually challenged when presented with a 4-ohm load. The ZEROs fix that and you don't loose the transparency of the amp. My rule of thumb is that when using the ZEROs you don't encounter any serious sonic tradeoffs. If the amp sounds better without the ZEROs then you just don't need them.

I think its better if the amp doesn't need the ZEROs. That usually means the speaker load is 8 ohms or more as in the case of ozzy's speakers.
Too bad more Maggie lovers who want to drive them with M-60's aren't aware of the Eminent Technology LFT-8b loudspeaker. It like Maggies is an inefficient planar-magnetic design, but the LFT-8's impedance is nominally 8 ohms, and if bi-amped the m/t panel (frequencies below 180Hz are handled by a sealed-enclosure dynamic woofer) has an impedance of 12 ohms, much better for a tube amp than the 4 ohm Maggies.
^^ Yes! We have a number of customers that run ETs as well, and very successfully.

I just found a used set of the Zero-Autoformers for a good price. Perhaps next week I will be able to try them with the M-60's to see if they provide any benefits with my DIY speakers.

ozzy