Recording Studio sound Vs. Audiophile system


Has anyone had the opportunity to compare what they hear in a recording studio vs. What they hear in their own system?

i recently had a friend come over and Listen to the album they had just recorded and mixed with a fantastic NYC engineer. The drums were recorded analog in a large studio (the way top albums are) while the rest was recorded digitally.

I was was quite impressed with the sound as the engineer captured the full envelope and dynamic shadings (for a rock record, that is). In fact the engineer doesn’t even allow people to take pictures of his mic positions or Pro tools session settings- I can hear why he’s protective of his secret sauce.


I pushed her for a comparison of what she heard in the studio vs. What she was hearing in my system. She commented that she could hear much more in my system vs. The studio, and would have mixed the vocals diferrently!

I cautioned her to make sure the mastering she was planning on having done doesn’t squash the life out of the tracks, or introduce subtle distortion in an attempt to win the "loudness wars."

I’m getting ready to do a blumlein Stereo recording for another friend in my space and Tonight I played some tracks the Rupert Neve company uploaded comparing seperate guitar and vocal tracks with 2 difference mic pre amps, so perspective buyers can compare. (One I own and one is a newer design/flavor)

https://m.soundcloud.com/rupertnevedesigns/sets/shelford-channel-and-portico-ii-channel-comparison

In an interview The engineer that recorded the demo tracks seemed to prefer the newer preamp over the one I own, as he felt it emulated some of the Classic Neve units and had a bigger sound.

Upon listening to the naked tracks in my system ( Tad cr1’s + PS Audio/Atmasphere electronics and top power conditioning) it was so obvious the newer (retro) design was glossing over the details the older more transparent Portico II design easily revealed.

In fact I could hear lots of flaws in the recording, eq, breath pops, ) with the more transparent pre amp.

My point is that often listening to recordings on my system I think " if only the engineer / producer could hear their work on a system of this level (and in a big room) their aesthetic and technical choices would provide much better recordings.

I often hear to me what sounds like mic pre amp subtly distorting or hitting their dynamic threshold (gain set too high or low) , which makes the sound brittle or hard.

Anyone else with studio vs. Audiophile experience who can chime in?

I know hearing a multi track master can be an incredible and dynamic experience but I’m referring more to the final mixes.
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lowrider---Tracking and mixing engineers (typically two separate individuals in big-time recording) often taped tissue paper over the tweeters of the Yamahas, to tame the speaker's hot tweeter. Yamaha took notice, and offered a version of the NS-10 with a slightly less emphasized treble, the NS-10s I believe.
Wow Does he poke people's eyes out before they leave the session so they can't reproduce the mic setup, what a bunch of BS. You get a good drum sound with a good drummer  a good sounding kit and room also not an over abundance of mics (less phase cancellation). I have been a Pro Engineer for over 30 years and ther are no big sercets only good engineers and musicians. 
Yes it seems odd the engineer would not allow photos (or give out the protools project files) but honestly the sound (for a psyc rock record) preserved the complete waveform of transients in a way I almost never hear. Or maybe just listening to unmastered mixes preserved these details.

I did watch Michael Fremer’s video at Abbey Road studios, and noticed they were using TAD R1’s i had read about them getting years ago.

I’d like to think I’ve taken my TAD CR1’s to another level by adding subs and stat super tweeters, but it's nice to see some studios using state of the art monitoring when making critical choices.  

But it seems to my ears that in many recorings the engineers can't hear how their choices are translating to less than optimal fidelity.  
I'm not a music pro, but I've researched pro monitors very extensively in past 2-3 months, preparing to purchase a pair for use in my desktop audio system (not many do this, but some users of big-$$ studio monitors are music lovers, like me).

I've learned 2 things from all my reading:

1. People who record music and produce the finished product are very concerned with their mix (or final master) "translating" to regular, everyday audio systems owned by John and Jane Q. Public. They know their recordings will be consumed on everything from shitty earbuds to wifi speaker to megabuck audiophile speakers. So their goal is that the recording "translate" to everybody else's gear. That's a hard thing to do.

2. The monitors they use are designed to help make those judgements easier. Design emphasis is put on flatness of frequency response, detailed/accurate soundstaging, and in every possible way, reproducing the input as clearly & faithfully as possible. These are not the same goals we use for desktop audio or big living room system.

Some pro monitors are said to actually sound pretty fine for music appreciation. I've spent a lot of time identifying the ones that are spoken of in this manner--and in a couple months, will buy a pair to upgrade my current desktop speakers.
@desktopguy   Very interesting what you said about the recording engineer’s mix for John & Jane Q Public. It sounds similar to back in the day when Motown mixed their music for a 4” car speaker. Very unlike, the high quality Telarc masters. Perhaps, one day, the music industry will consider adopting digital protocols similar to the film & television industry. Feature films and television shows are primarily shot ‘raw’ on digital cameras. Raw footage has abundant data that allows for precise final color correction in postproduction. Raw footage is not pleasant to look at. It is desaturated and grayish. Before the final color correction stage (which might be months away), the producers at the studios and networks need to see a relatively accurate visual of what was shot. A LUT (Look-up Table) accomplishes this. A LUT is an app which creates a proxy of ‘the visual look’ - including color, hue, contrast, brightness, gamma, etc. The Director of Photography is the one responsible for determining the LUT. The DP is creatively in control of the project’s final imagery – similar to a recording engineer’s master mix.

Perhaps in the future, recording engineers could create different mix LUTS. The consumer could pick the LUT for whatever hardware they’re using at the time. Wouldn’t that be novel.