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DO NOT SELL OR BUY FROM THAILAND

I admit, I fell for a scammer from Thailand, even though I was warned. It just was that it took forever to sell my Stealth cables at a give away price. These cables are awesome, but evidently not popular in the USA. I refused to send the cables to the buyer because he wanted me to declare the value at $30 USD for custom fees. So he had me direct the shipment to his friend in SoCal. Now, after UPS (and I insured the cables for $4,000 to save on shipping-my fault) delivered the package, the buyer says his friend did not sign and receive the cables! Just be aware A-Gon members, and don't be foolish like me.
talk2me
tubegroover
2,279 posts
 
Out of curiosity Talk2me, you indicate you were "warned" not to sell to folks from Thailand (" You have been warned, as I did not heed this warning,") So are we to understand that someone(s) told you that folks from Thailand are scammers? I am unsure why you don't see that some of the responders find your comments unfairly categorize people from Thailand as somehow being dishonest. My question to you would be; some of the time, most of the time or all of the time? People who are dishonest are dishonest period. Your comments seem grossly unfair nothwithstanding what happened in this transaction.
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czarivey
4,494 posts
 

My mama told me "Stupid is as Stupid does" ...

Anyways " Mama always had a way of explaining things so I could understand them".

jetter
1,035 posts
 

Hi talk2me,

How were your warned, was there an Agon thread or by a friend not to sell to certain non U.S. countries in general?  I don't sell much but would limit it to U.S. and Canada, but that's just my personal preference.

Thanks,

Jetter

lewm
6,770 posts
 
Apart from all the vitriol that your post engendered, I am trying to figure out what exactly happened.  From what I can decipher, you sent the cables to the third party recipient in SoCal without having received payment in advance.  That's where you made your tactical error.  It is normal in these transactions for the buyer to trust the seller by paying in advance of shipment.  Obviously, all ways of doing such a transaction have pitfalls, if the buyer and seller are not honorable to begin with, but you have a reason to expect payment in advance of shipment, based on past practice on this and other similar websites and assuming you are a registered member on Audiogon.  (Your registering on Audiogon is at least a fig leaf that should make you, as seller, trustworthy, because the buyer can report you if you do not fulfill your part of the bargain.) So the take home lesson is get paid before shipping (and register on Agon, if you have not done so already).  Not "Thai people are dishonest" (or thoughts to that effect).

It's almost a separate discussion, but if you sent the cables by UPS and asked for a signature, then UPS is the responsible party for either confirming the cables were lost or that they were delivered and signed for.  You don't mention that part of the story.  Trying to get money out of UPS is like..... any number of other impossibilities.  
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