Budget SET or SEP recommendations?


Not in a rush, but considering playing with an SET or SEP.  Have only heard a few.  Something fairly inexpensive, worth trying, but not immediately upgrade-worthy.  Any thoughts, recommendations, or similar SET/SEP noob experiences?  Integrated, or not, doesn't matter.

These two seem to be reasonably respectable for cheap, at least according to the interwebs:

Dared MP2a3c
Yaqin MS-300c

Thank you.
stfoth

Hello stfoth,

I believe you’ve gotten some very solid recommendations for "good" quality amps at a "budget" price.

1 I’d trust George’s opinion regarding the Japanese 300b amp. It seems a well thought out design/implementation.

2 Dennis Had amp used by Wolf. Their current models seem to have improved power supplies/transformers and are built by a known talent.

3 Coincident Dynamo MK II, I’m very familiar with this brand and they are very high quality. Many good reviews and owner feedback comments.

As Wolf mentioned and I strongly agree, you must have a compatible speaker that's easy to drive and efficient. Otherwise you won't appreciate what these types of quality low power amps are capable of.


Good luck,

Charles

Glennewdick mentioned the Finale  amplifiers. I have not heard them but they have a very solid reputation for sound and built quality. The SET/SEP amps are very simple circuits with few parts, this why they're capable of such pure and natural sound .

The key to their success is a serious effort to  build them right, meaning quality transformers and power supplies. The "junk" versions always cut corners in these crucial areas as George noted in his comments about winding transformers.

The better brands mentioned above won't do this as they know the result will be a crap/junk amplifier. My advice is to go in the direction of the serious intentioned amp builders and you will achieve very high sound quality.

Charles

Thanks for keeping my head straight, or at least guided away from the cheap "bling" amps.  When I cheap out on myself, I oftentimes end up spending more.

@wolf_garcia. Those look great.  Saw some mixed reviews.  Most of my other gear is Cary, both pre and post Mr. Had's departure from the company.  If you are familiar with a general Cary house-sound, do you think Mr. Had carried it over to his craft amps?  Inasmuch as some of it would be apples to oranges.

@charles1dad. Some of this interest was reignited by another inquiry I had about tube and shelf-friendly monitors.  Just picked up Sophia Princess S.E.T. Model 2 monitors, kind of on impulse.  I think they are 88/db.  Omegas were recommended, and, so, extremely curious about how the single-drivers work/sound, hedged, and ordered the 3 HO.  I think those are 95/96 db.

The Decware Mini Torii looks interesting.  Some nice, useful features.  I think a couple folks mentioned them, elsewhere, and smaller Decware, particularly with Omega.  An acquaintance is a huge fanboy, but I didn't immediately make the connection, because he raves about one of the bigger amps.

Any thoughts on Decware in or around the league discussed above?
Even though I own a Mini Torii, I'd be a bit cautious about recommending it to someone who hasn't heard it.  It's got a very distinct sound.  At its worst, with some recordings it can sound a bit hollow and dead; at its best it's got a beautiful musical full bodied rich and powerful sound.  It all depends on the recording and production of that recording.  In reading the Decware forums, I'm not sure that I've seen any posters who owned a Mini Torii and another Decware amp say that they preferred the M.T.

I've played it for many people in my system.  Some love it and some don't.  Just wanted to put that out there.