Schitt Freya or older pre instead


Hi, 

Got the itch. Currently running an Adcom GFP 555. It does its job, but nothing great. Thinking of getting something better without spending too much money. The Schitt Freya looks very interesting. Lots of options and has a remote. Reviews tend to range from "it is great!" to "tends to be a little bright" and "nothing but a $400 preamp with a weak power supply and a tube buffer stage". The old B& Pro 10 or Sonata 101 looks to still be good buys (?). Adcom GFP 750 (?) Any thoughts for a preamp for around 800.00 or under?. Amp = Classe DR 10 with Spendor speakers. Tried a CJ PFR but thought way too much gain and a bit bright (not what I expected from CJ). Thanks
rich3549
Running a Freya into a Taranis amp w/balanced interconnects.  JFET buffer mode exclusively.  Took the tubes out.    It sounds great to me.  NOT noisy at all - though there is some low level "warbling" that can be heard when "muted", oddly enough.   With volume up and nothing playing, very quiet...no noise, warbling or otherwise.  Solid state sound for me was more refined and detailed than with the single-ended tube pre I was using previously.  It supports long listening sessions.  No fatigue.  Seemed to respond with heightened clarity to vibration/isolation measures.  I was NOT that impressed with sound running the as supplied Russian NOS 6sn7 tubes.  Might need to revisit those now that the unit is well run in but I'm entirely happy with the JFET mode.

Expectations and experience levels differ so I'm not trying to pick an argument with Kenny.  5% restocking fee is all you have to risk if you order from Schiit and decide to return it.   DO put signal through it continuously for a couple of days before any critical listening.  
OP--It's kinda all over the map on the Freya.  I know Kdude thinks it's junk.  I saw ghosthouse rave about the JFET in another thread.

Here's a third take.  Some of this is culled from what I wrote this morning on another thread.  I mostly got it to try a passive and stay balanced.  Tubes and JFET were nice tweaker bonuses.  I very much like it for the value.  I use it mostly as a passive with a Cary DAC200ts.  It works well for me like that and so fulfilled its primary purpose.  To add some tube flavor with a push of a button is great and certainly helps with some bad recordings and such.  Between the options on the Cary and on the Schiit, it can be a distraction, because, if there are buttons and knobs, I like to push them and turn them.

That said, unlike ghosthouse, I haven't made friends with the JFET stage, but that almost certainly relates to different gear and preferences.  I don't think the tube stage sounds as good as many other tube pres (anything I'm comparing that to, though, is also more expensive).  With the stock tubes, it was pretty sterile and didn't add a whole lot. To be fair, I probably didn't give them sufficient time to burn in. I've tried maybe half a dozen or so combinations--didn't like it with Sylvanias (VT-231, GT, or GTB) or Raytheons. Very much prefer it with GEs, RCAs, and/or KenRad. I didn't try 6sn7w or TS BGRP...I refuse to put tubes in that cost nearly as much as the Freya (or more), especially when the tubes keep burning in the other modes. I don't find it to be as responsive to tube changes as some others, though.  I don't find it to be noisy--one pair of known-to-be-noisy tubes was actually much quieter in the Freya than in a Cary pre.

One note--the remote doesn't do on/off, and the switch is on the back of the Freya, if that matters. If you don't need the balanced and aren't interested in the passive or JFET push-button tweakability, still easy enough to try and I think good for the money, but probably could do better on a tubed pre for not a ton more dough, but more dough nonetheless.

So, on that, if primarily looking for an unbalanced tube pre, I generally agree with Kdude that there are other places to look for that.  Although I haven't heard the LTA, sure seems like an awesome piece.  What folks are saying about using it as an amp on high-efficiency speakers just blows my mind.


Ghosthouse,

I'm very glad to hear how much you like the Freya,
I always keep a open mind and trust me I much wanted to like the Freya,It just didn't work out for me.

As you know I do Dig the YGGY best dac under 2k that I've had the pleasure of using.

Kenny.
OP, if I were to buy a new line stage preamp in the $800 price range, I would buy a Mapletree Line 2C Line Preamplifier even though I have not personally heard it in a system. It just looks like an awesome piece for its asking price. I have also not heard anything negative about it from folks who have heard it. It does apparently have a long wait time, especially if you specify any upgrades.  
rich3549

I’d go the Freya, because

1: Gives you choice between passive, tube or solid state output.
2: Has both single ended or balanced in and output.
3: It has 64 position relay based volume control, one of the best there is.
4: Has remote control for that volume control and input/output and mute
5: If you don’t like it you can send it back.

And it was deigned by Mike Mike Moffat, the head designer at Theta when they were on top.

Cheers George