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Wilson Audio Duette 2's vs Tekton Ulf's

Help...I am going crazy reading the Tekton DI forum.  And now there are comments regarding the Ulf.  I have a pair of Wilson Audio Duette 2's.  I have two Triad Silver in wall Subwoofers to complement the bass from the Duette 2's.  My integrated tube amp is Raven Audio Reflection MK2 with 58wpc.  That combination has been absolutely awesome for me in a room that is 30'wide x 40' long.  Yes, I know not the perfect listening room but the music that comes out of my system sounds like a concert hall.  In addition, I have a Lumin A-1 DAC / Music Streamer and a Synology hard drive for music storage.  I love my system.  This is strictly 2- channel as I have a separate dedicated theater room also.  

Originally, for fun I was going to buy the Tekton DI and just compare them to the Duette 2's.  I figured I would compare the two speakers and sell the ones that I did not like as much.  Yes, they are two totally different speakers.  Then, the Ulf's came out and Eric said they blow the doors off of the DI's.  Naturally, I am interested in the Ulf's.  However, in this situation, I would need to sell my Duette 2's before ordering the Ulf's.  Am I crazy?  I am comparing the Duette's that cost $23k vs a Tekton Mini or Ulf at $7.5k to 12k.  

I live in the Phoenix area.  If there are any audiophiles out here that would not mind listening to my current system and telling me what you think I would love to hear your comments.  It is very hard for me to give an objective opinion on my system.  Like I said I love it....but like all of us, if there is a way to improve it we do it.  I just don't know if the Tekton Ulf's are an upgrade over my Wilson's.
willgolf
kdude66
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Troy,

I've been in this hobby almost as long as you and I understand your very valid points in proper system and speaker comparisons but if you read again what I said in my post there was no reason to move forward with any more evaluation the Waf killed the deal.

Your point about the Tekton patient is spot on,I have read it several times and It's only referring to a general idea and is very vague.

Hopefully you can hear some Tekton speakers sometime and then you would have a true opinion without speculation.

My budget for speakers is 40k but Offcourse I got one heck of a bargain with the DI's and couldn't be happier.Are They the last speaker I ever buy probably not.

I have been told by Mike Kay of audio archon that he will be getting the SE version of the DI's for demo and the SE version is dealer only.

Kenny.
willgolf OP
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As the starter of this thread, it is interesting to read all of your diverse thoughts.  I have made a decision and I am going to list my Wilson's for sale on Thursday.  I truly love them and they are in perfect condition but my room is massive and I need a full size speaker.  A friend of mine is going to lend me his Legacy Aeris system for a week with my Raven Amp.  If I like them I may go that route.  If not, I will also consider the Mini Ulf's or look for a good pair of used Magico's, or something else.  I would fly to Utah to hear the Ulf's before committing to Tekton.  It is to early for used Paradigm Persona 9H's to be available.  I am not a fan of B&W, mid price range Sonus Fabers, and my spouse would not accept the look of KEF.  The Aeris just might work because the speakers must be placed within 6 inches of the rear wall and with the Wavelet correction system it should help.  $20k is my top end.   I have been told the Aeris will blow away my Wilson's so it will be fun to compare the two.  
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audiotroy
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As a Legacy dealer we think this is a wise move. If you get a set of Aeris with the standard Wavelaunch processor, then the price of a set of Aeris is around $20k and they have two huge advantages over the Ulberoths.

One they have room correction which will enable you to produce good non boomy bass with that adverse room position.

Two: they are a known and much hearlded product. The Aeris has been receiving rave reviews from many magazines for many years. 

The Aeris combines extremely high quality custom heil AMT with a few other tricky drivers with a diapole midrange system that screams huge soundstage with a lot of air.They have fantastic deep bass and have a smooth midrange, they also have fantatic dynamic range and although are large are a pretty speaker with superb woodwork.

Let us know what you think of the Aeris. We think you will find them a huge improvment over the Duettes.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
kdude66
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willgolf,

I think that is wonderful choice and you have a friend close that you can borrow the Legacy's.Nothing better than trying a speaker and or a component in your own room.

The Aeris is quite a jump up in sound vs the focus se that several people have in my area.Earlier this year my wife and I listened to the Legacy Aeris and also Magico q3's but went in another direction for now.

Best of luck to you and let us know how they work out.

Kenny.
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shadorne
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If the Ulf’s are so much better than the DI it begs the question what is wrong with the DI?

I have had three sizes of ATC - the bookshelf 20 (6 " woofer), the 100 (12") and the larger 150 (15") and they all sound very much the same just more dynamics/SPL and bass extension as you go larger. I would not think of it as an engineering achievement when different "engineered" models of speaker sound radically different - it begs the question which design is correct and does the designer follow engineering principles or just "experiment" and cobble a product together from what parts are readily available.

I advise to be wary. I would listen first - a big difference suggests you may prefer one over the other but how to know which one will be your personal preferred one without an audition. If one model hits it out of the park for you then it is hardly likely the other one will work unless it sounds very much the same (which the manufacturer has said it doesn’t.)
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