Tech That Flopped!


Every few months someone releases technology that seems to be revolutionary, but goes nowhere a couple of years later. Some tech gets acceptance and even imitation. Some goes wildly successful.

Ideas that are a huge success:
  • Acoustic suspension
  • Bass Reflex
  • Soft dome tweeters
Some ideas, well, it's not so clear:
  • Perfectly time aligned speakers ilke Thiel/Vandersteen
  • ESL
  • Line Arrays
  • Plasma tweeters
  • Transmission line
What tech have you seen come and go, was it worthwhile?

Best,

E
erik_squires
Well, the problem with "time aligned" speakers like Thiele, etc. is that they.... really aren't.  Yes, you can put a microphone at some position and get the direct sound pressure from all drivers to arrive at the same time there.  But only the acoustically naiive believe that only the sound coming directly from a driver to your ear is what matters -- most of the sound energy gets to you by other paths, and its effect is far from irrelevant.  The number of loudspeaker designs that are "time aligned" or "phase coherent" toward other targets than straight ahead is very very small.
^Given proper spacing and ergo time delays, the ear/brain can discriminate between original and delayed reflected sound. As few in options as they might be, most of the better known speakers with this capability are designed with rather wide such dispersion characteristics.
Speaking of delay, whatever happened to digital time delay? Did it do the old floperino? Audio Pulse Model One. Yeah, Buddy!

 Eric, first let me say that despite what might appear to be a pattern of antagonistic responses from me to your posts, I really do look forward to your contributions and respect your opinions, whether I fully agree with them or not. :-)
 As hwy61 had already mentioned in this thread; can one dismiss a product like Vandersteens venerable model 2 as niche' product? I suspect that speakers like Dunlavy, Thiel and Vandersteen ( include Quad 63's ?)  have had sizable high end market shares for a considerable length of time.
Teo should be aware of the piles of sealed box guitar speakers (most Marshalls, and many, many others), the actual extremely sophisticated bass amp rigs of varying types (some of which I own and use) utilized by professional musicians far more aware of modern technology than Teo seems to be (Aguilar…look it up), the direct to mixing board/amp mixed bass recording techniques utilized by professional sophisticated bass players, and the generally excellent bass tone of most well recorded brilliant musicians (Larry Grenadier? Avashai Cohen?) in many of the musical genres people actually carefully listen to…perhaps not in much pop or hip hop where a specific style of overload might be more appropriate, but still…mud could be part of your system, and I suggest you clean it up.
That’s quite the pile of projected suppositional strawmen.

Something nicely built up and in the end thrown in my face as if I am the shape of those things.

Bizarre. I don't know what to say except - please, don't.