Dealers hijacking the discussions

@dlcockrum , I was kind of riffing off what @teo_audio was saying. I think that once societal standards are lowered, boundaries that used to be respected, aren't.

I remember when if anyone volunteered that they had something to sell on a thread, all the participants would chime in and ask them not to do it. That's what the 'for sale' section was there for. There was a self policing aspect here that didn't require the mods to step in unless someone got really out of hand. God, I'm starting to sound old.

All the best,
Nonoise 

Alright. It is very plain and simple. All the dealers and manufacturers, please do us a favour and leave this forum once and for all. Just because you have a formal right to be here doesn't mean that you should. Stop irritating us and humiliating yourselves. This is a not a place to do business.

There’s a very blurry line between manufacturer, distributor, dealer, reviewer and hobbyist and an attempt to rule on who is and is not allowed to contribute is doomed to in the long run just further damp down the site. We should welcome as many voices and perspectives as possible and as others have noted you soon learn to tune out the nattering nabobs of negativity or the blowhard sales folks 

Hey who is the "us" that want the dealers to leave A’Gon. The "me" finds their contributions invaluable.

I consider these dealers to have more knowledge than me for the most part. That does not mean I will agree with everything. For example, there are a couple of things AudioTroy said about digital music servers that I may disagree with. However, I do not have the time nor inclination to prove if he is right or I am right by testing this out. For many of the other ideas he has presented, that I have limited knowledge on, I take his statements with more credibility than regular posters (like me). Not assuming his recommendations will work for me but I give dealers a lot more leeway because they spend the whole day with audio.

I am about to spend a lot of money soon on a final system ($50Kish) (this is not a hobby for me). I have found that AudioTroy’s feedback here has helped me understand my audio observations better. I do not know anyone locally that cares about audio to talk to so this is invaluable.

I reside in California but I want to make a purchase from his store one day just to show support for all the grief he encounters here.