Are future improvements in Amp/PreAmps slowing to a crawl?

kosst

With all due respect, telling people they just need to listen to understand the technical claims is the same thing as you saying "My word is the only proof you need to believe my claims"

That's not what I said

The only way to understand what I have been trying to share is by actual listening.

That's what I said.

You won't gain any technical insight by listening. But you will experience the acoustical result of the process. It is the experience that I'm trying to share.

teo_audio,
Can you enlighten me on the time/space 3d reality issue ?

Thanks

@roger_paul 
Let me put it bluntly. I don't care in the slightest what it sounds like. I want to see what it looks like through a scope and distortion analyzer. I'm challenging your technical claims. I don't believe them. You've cited no measurements. You have no patent. You have provided nothing to back up your claims. Nothing you've said leads me to believe your amps sounds better than my F5. Your amp's specs certainly fall short of it in several ways. I'm not going to take your word that your claims are true. Listening tell nobody anything about your claims. 

kosst,
I don't understand the obsession with the scope and analyzer - didn't we learn that the THD measurements did not correlate with how it sounds?

You've cited no measurements.

There is nothing to measure. Take the line stage for example. You see a test tone at 1khz sitting at 0db out and if you look across the spectrum headed north of 1 khz you see flat constant noise around -110db. If you specifically monitor the 2khz frequency you see that it is also just the noise floor. There are no other "bumps" showing up in the spectrum. Total absence of harmonic distortion. This was my initial proof that I could prevent a circuit from generating harmonics by using a phase based countermeasure circuit directly on the music signal.

@roger_paul 
Ok, Roger, I'm calling BS. I'm not stupid. You're not onto anything special here. It's not that hard to build a simple circuit with well matched parts that produces distortion below the noise floor. If I so chose, I could take a variety of designs and carefully match the parts so that the distortion would be below the noise floor. My understanding of circuit design is hardly advanced and even I know that. If one so desired, you could EASILY build an simple amp with not so well matched parts and just degenerate the hell out of them and get the kinds of results your talking about. It would drive a reactive load miserably, but it would measure like a dream through an 8 ohm dummy load. From my pouring through lectures and articles it's obvious that designers avoid building circuits with the kind of vanishing distortion you describe. They just don't sound good. 

For the record Roger, I'm listening to an amp that measures kinda like this:
Measured at 120 V AC with a 25 ohm source and an 8 ohm load: Distortion @ 1 watt .001% to .005% @ 1 KHz
Input Impedance 101 Kohm
Damping Factor 60
Output power stereo 8 ohms 25 watts @ 1% THD, 1KHz
Voltage Gain 15.3 dB
Maximum unclipped output +/-30 Volts
Maximum output current >10 amps
Frequency response - .0 dB @ DC, -3 dB @ ~ 1 megaHertz
Noise ~60 uV unweighted, 20-20 KHz
From what I can tell, those are more impressive numbers than your site indicates. And do you know what the biggest complaint is about that amp? It's WAY too revealing and unforgiving. I've listened to that thing around it's .001% distortion. It's so crystalline clear you can practically hear a singer's eyelids blink. Practically everybody who builds one applies some positive phase second order distortion through the NFB loop balance to warm the sound up and open up the stage.  

I'm going to consider you called out as a fraud. I've read your white paper and you're just making it up. You don't even use the terminology appropriate to what you're claiming you do. Discrete quantum components aren't called fragments. They're called packets of quanta. Quanta governed by quantum electrodynamics don't associate through "inheritance". They associate through entanglement. You might be a nice guy, but you prey on the uninformed with unorthodox jargon to sell your fraudulent claims. That's snake oil. I don't like it. 

Whoa! Holy guacamole! Oh, so this îs what happens when a measurement fanatic encounters someone who disagrees with him? Geez, I was under the impression the whole amplifier measurement thing - especially THD - went out the window 40 count em years ago! As well as the bullet headed dude 🌰 from Audio Review or whatever.