@geoffkait
You're so crazy! You make me feel so dumb sometimes!
You're so crazy! You make me feel so dumb sometimes!
Snake oil, fraud, confirmation bias
It is becoming increasingly apparent that many threads about legitimate topics devolve into one or more of the contributors here making claims of snake oil, fraud, or confirmation bias thereby derailing the conversation beyond the valid and relevant thread topic and this is getting ridiculous. For anyone here who honestly holds the position that there is snake oil and fraud in the world of Music Reproduction Systems I challenge them to prove their claims in court it should be an easy task based on the claims they make here in Audiogon AND they will make a fortune because in the US once proven they can file a class action suit and profit enormously from the efforts of others to deceive. These people regularly claim that "there is no evidence" that things such as cables or fuses make a difference when in actual fact Audiogon is filled with evidence that these things make very real differences in
Music Reproduction Systems of course those who claim fraud reject that evidence as "confirmation bias" but in absence of any documentation from them they are only repeating the claim they have made so many times that has been refuted many times here by those who have demonstrated to there satisfaction that they make a difference. I think in actual truth the real fraudsters here are those that repeatedly make these claims of snake oil and fraud and often they have no experience to back up there claims they simply say the claims are impossible!
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@hifiman5 That's often the nature of schizophrenia until you get the right medication. The fact you think you hear something is hardly proof of anything. People think putting Geoff's clocks in the room do stuff. No, they don't. It's your imagination. All I hear from you are definitive statements made as though your brain is some faultless piece of analytical gear. All you snake oil buyers think that way. How about you back up your claims with measurements? Any decent tech or engineer will tell you that you can measure this stuff. Your problem is that you can't measure your imagination. |
It is great to see folks challenging wild claims and marketing hype. This is very healthy. This should be encouraged. Those who hear something different in instances when they really shouldn't, have an awful lot to learn. Here is an article about menus and how they affect people’s perception .http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20171120-the-secret-tricks-hidden-inside-restaurant-menus People who deny that this clever expectation setting marketing hype (even when not true at all) has any affect on them are just fooling themselves. |
Actually the clocks work even when the person doesn't know the clocks are there. Or if a friend comes over. Assuming you have friends. The clocks can be hidden in a drawer or whatever. So it cannot be expectation bias or imagination or placebo effect. Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I. 🤡 |
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