Has anyone made the jump to $uper High end and were disappointed?

@gdhal 

"While I'll agree that @geoffkait post is more accurate and thought out than many of his other posts, to some extent it is not entirely correct because there is yet a third (that I can think of, perhaps there are more) high-ends for audio.

The third condition combines elements of both high-ends as indicated in his description."  

Oh, I can buy that...there's usually a middle ground of some kind.

Regards
John

@bo1972 

"The thing what I hope people will learn and understand is that trial en error does not garantee you anything."

It's ok, bo...it doesn't guarantee anything. I think that's why they call it trial and error. 

Just sayin'

Not quite $uper high-end, but, by retail price, Cary CAD211fe and Canton Reference 1.  Not disappointed, and no buyer's remorse, but perhaps the "sound quality jump was not as much as the price jump."  At least for the Cantons, WAF/compromised placement is part of the issue, although the Cantons do much better with crappy placement than some others.

Lots of really great gear in that price range, though.

But, I'm just a child trying things out by trial and error.  Maybe I should have gone with Onkyo, Monitor, and Bo's 3d stuff.

Correcto Mundo! Nobody ever said trial and error was a good idea. I have said it wasn’t a good idea like forever for speaker placement. You have to have a method. Trial and error is like trying to solve N simultaneous equations in N + x unknowns. The best you can hope for is finding local maximums. And that’s if you’re lucky.

Tru-Fi is a different and more effective way to create an audiosystem. But when you focus on brands we use and think I did not find these products were that special, you are probable right.

A Monitor Audio loudspeaker in any trial and error shop is not the same product as it is in a Tru-Fi system. Based on the fact that these dealers can only use a small part of all the properties these speakers own.

I have different clients who said; in the past when I auditioned Monitor Audio I was not that impressed. Or when I would not have visited you I don’t think I would have bought a Monitor Audio set.

When I test and do research I am only looking for properties. This is a level most people can never use and reach. I am aware of how difficult it is. It took my almost 20 years to be able to extract each single product.

In the price range Monitor Audio operates there is no other brand what gives me those properties I need and want that easy. Because most brands are 2D on facts. Each single 2D brand or product will never make any person excited and emotional for a long period.

People who visite me the first time are often impressed how much different any Monitor Audio loudspeaker sounds compared to any trial and error shop.

At the first few seconds you are aware that you are listening to a different level in both sound and emotion. Tru-Fi can also create a superior level of other brands. You just need the right properties.

We are Lumin dealer as well. Again we create a level with Lumin what is in it’s own league. Because we use the properties to the max. We modify the players internal. We use different tools to improve them. We modify poweramps and a lot more.

My goal is always creating a superior level in both sound quality and emotion compared to any other product for the same money. A perfectionist only wants to win and outperform.

I see both sound&vision as a game and I love it. I only want to outperfrom any other audio company in the world. This is how I create superior quality and the highest level in emotion. 

In my world there is no place for second best. That is only for born losers. For a normal person it is not possible to understand how much further I go into details. And how precise I work. It goes so far beyond your imagination.

When I see pictures of highend systems I can see many mistakes already. Because they make mistakes in things I tested why they have a limiting influence.

Thousands of tests means you want to understand as much as possible. And to improve both sound&vision over and over again. We are now talking with manufacturers to bring both sound&vision to a much higher level than where it stands now.

The inferior level of trial and error will only decrease the audio market. There is not even a discussion about this possible. Trail and error is pure blindness and having no idea to do it differently.