Quadraphonic records (LPs to you and me)


If normal analogue comes through as 2 channel, what effect does a quadraphonic record have?
If my processor (Bryston sp3) codes 2 channel into surround 7.1 - which it does exceedingly well- does that make the separation easier?
(Bryston do not know)
Thanks chaps and chapesses
tatyana69
The Bryston very successfully codes 2 channel into 7.1.
I never play analogue into stereo 
So the quadraphonic lps need a special cartridge ... and phonostage then. So presumably playing with a normal cartridge and phonostage some channels are missing, hence maybe a weaker sound for a number of reasons, presumably, from what you are saying?
Must be for a very limited market place these records then


I am looking at Ebay uk an item called
CARLY SIMON ~ HOTCAKES ~ USA QUADRAPHONIC STEREO AUDIOPHILE LP
So the "stereo" word is out of place, or indeed wrong?
tatyana69
So the quadraphonic lps need a special cartridge ... and phonostage then. So presumably playing with a normal cartridge and phonostage some channels are missing, hence maybe a weaker sound for a number of reasons, presumably, from what you are saying?
No, all of the quad LP formats were compatible with two channel playback, at least as far as I can recall.

I am looking at Ebay uk an item called
CARLY SIMON ~ HOTCAKES ~ USA QUADRAPHONIC STEREO AUDIOPHILE LP
So the "stereo" word is out of place, or indeed wrong?
No, it's not wrong at all. Quadraphonic is a type of "stereo," just as two channel is a type of stereo. "Stereo" is not confined to two channels.

So is any quad beneficial element picked up in a normal cartridge and phonostage, or just "wasted"?
From what you are saying all elements are in principle "recovered"?
I feel I am either being stupid or missing something here
If the Bryston decodes elements into separate aspects to surround speakers I was wondering if the input already into 4 may provide an easier or more varied decoding

So the quadraphonic lps need a special cartridge ... and phonostage then. So presumably playing with a normal cartridge and phonostage some channels are missing, hence maybe a weaker sound for a number of reasons, presumably, from what you are saying?
Must be for a very limited market place these records then
I feel I am either being stupid or missing something here
If the Bryston decodes elements into separate aspects to surround speakers I was wondering if the input already into 4 may provide an easier or more varied decoding
You are missing something- the history.
4-channel was a thing that showed up in the 1970s. It was very much a precursor to surround sound and home theatre.

There were several formats- several forms of 4 channel tape, 4 channel encoding on FM stereo (usually SQ) and three competing formats on LPs.

The three LP formats were CD-4, SQ and QS. All are compatible with 2 channel playback. A decoder was required to extract the 4 channel information. In the case of CD-4, the rear channels were encoded on an FM carrier track that was outside of the audio band (and so needed a special cartridge, although many modern cartridges have the bandwidth and stylus that can do the job). The special cartridge saw the introduction of the Shibata stylus.

QS was the Sansui encoding, and SQ (if memory serves) was Columbia. They used phase information encoded in the grooves to extract the rear channel information.  Because of the method of phase encoding, its not surprising to hear that they don't sound as 'strong'.

All of these systems are analog based. If I understand correctly, the Bryston is not- so it can't decode these LPs. You'll have to look out for the decoders on ebay- they are easy to find and not expensive.