Nuvista Tubes - General


May I have opinions please on the pluses and minuses of Nuvista tubes versus vacuum tubes? Supposedly and from the basic homework I've done, Nuvista tubes purportedly offer high reliability, low microphony, low noise, consistency, and small size compared to their vacuum counterparts. So what's the down side? 
gdhal
Sales pitch, to make one believe there’s a a romantic/euphonic side to it. as the tubes are in between the s/s I/V stage and output buffer and serves no purpose, but a sales pitch.

Then perhaps I should stay with my M6si which I’m happy and content with, and when/if the time comes to "upgrade" look/think elsewhere than the MF line. Not to mention the fact that the Nuvista 600 is another five grand more (MSRP) than the M6si.

EDIT:

George, is your statement about a hybrid being a "sales pitch" in your opinion specific to MF, or in general and applicable to any hybrid amp manufacturer?




This is old stuff gd.
Right. I'm pretty sure there was a recent thread though here on the forum quoting Nelson Pass as to his thoughts on amplifier evolution. If I'm not mistaken it is somewhat at an impasse. To that end a fellow (Roger) from HCAT chimed in with a new (purportedly) design that many folks here poo-pooed for various reasons. The posts got rather argumentative and the thread was subsequently deleted.

I'm not all that interested in class D. If anything I'd go class A, tubes or a hybrid. Anything "new" in that realm?
Gd, I’m sorry, I was not clear. I meant that the tubes used in the MF gear were old stuff, not the design, which I am not familiar with. Just making the point that the designer must source sufficient quantities of a product that hasn’t been made in more than 50 years. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.

You seem to be focused on picking your gear based on the technology involved. I think that’s a slippery slope, and because of system interactions and personal tastes, I generally recommend purchasing based on sound quality, long term reliablility and serviceability. YMMV.
@viridian

No apology necessary. I’m very appreciative of your input (and clarifications). And I get what you’re stating (and agree) about purchasing based on sound quality, long term reliability and serviceability. That writes and sounds much easier than it is. Not always so easy to make a choice, given the hundreds if not thousands of available choices. Also, it's rather impractical to attempt to listen/audition all options.

Back to nuvistor for a moment, I received a message from Musical Fidelity in response to my inquiry as to where/how the improvement is between the M6si and their nuvista lineup. I don’t know what they mean by "psu", so perhaps you could translate that acronym. Thanks.

The following is from MF:
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The Nu-Vista 600 has the benefit of the Nu-Vista valve preamp stage. The preamp is directly coupled to the input stage so you have shorter signal paths, we have an improved psu over the M6si.
You hear the beauty, warmth and transparency of the valve stage and the transients and power of the transistor power amps.

The Nu-Vista 600 has 4 transistors per channel and outputs 200 wpc, the N800 has 10 transistors per channel and outputs 300w.
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“That writes and sounds much easier than it is.” I’m certainly with you on that one!

PSU is power supply, arguably the heart of every amplifier. 

If you are looking for a rich sound, excellent reliability and serviceability you might have a look at Van Alstine. As you said there are tons of excellent choices out there. I am pre-disposed to gear made in the USA that is very reliable and easy to service. Some really like the marque and some find it lacking in clarity. Rogue also makes a couple of nice hybrid amps but these are class D and I think that you said that you had a technological aversion to that.