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Are the Mods handling these forums as well as they could be? How can we help them?

Let me begin by congratulating the mods on the job they are doing here, as one who has had experience doing the very same job on forums it is a usually a thankless unpaid task that garners no friends in any quarter!

That being said I am of the belief that just deleting posts that are deemed inappropriate is not the best way to handle the rabble rousers who are left free to perform said actions again and again and again.
This is a select few who are well known to the majority but can and do spoil many a decent thread and have indeed caused a number of once regular contributers to go "dark".
My proposal would be for the mods to tally up infractions for inappropriate posts and after a certain points limit is hit then an automatic ban should occur, the severity of which would be decided by the mods based on the manner of the infractions. I have found that if posters know there is a system in place that could limit their freedom to post they usually think twice about said posts and if not , well soon enough they become irrelevant anyway.

I am also accustomed to the mods being well known to other members, not faceless entities although this is not the end of the world just a little odd from my previous background.

What do the Audiogon membership think on this matter?

I sincerely hope the mods do not remove this thread as it is not intended as direct criticism , rather as a tool to help them possibly deal with the increasing problem in a way that the membership would be most comfortable with.
uberwaltz
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uberwaltz OP
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And I would prefer to see that fixed where it starts, having the poster just not do it at all! Rather than waiting for mods to remove which is then too late for some who will have gone off on a tangent already!
And that may be achieved by member timeout possibility...or it might make zero difference at all

Who knows...
As they say...common sense is the least common of all senses
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I still think that heading off the silly and irrelevant posts at the pass would be the better way...but of course...I am biased........

Would it not be better to just get to the meat without so much extraneous fat and gristle?

Somebody did mention censorship but it is not something I was reaching for or condone


@uberwaltz, you sound conflicted to me. You want someone to delete silly and irrelevant posts, get to the meat without the fat.....but you don’t condone censorship?

Someone has to determine what is silly and what is irrelevant. What may be irrelevant to one, may be helpful to another.
What may be fat to one, may be meat to another.

Surely you have heard the phrase: "One man’s trash is another man’s treasure".

So whomever is determining what is appropriate for the forums is in essence censoring the forums to suit their own personal values.
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geoffkait
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What can I tell you? Some of my best material was deleted. 🤠
elizabeth
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The suggestion that an 'op' can be a moderator on the thread they started is interesting.
What I would suggest is the op can 'mark' posts they dislike, perhaps with a red background. or a diagonal striped background color.
Or red stripes on the margins?

Another way would allow the op only to mark following post with a 'like' or dislike' flag which can be seen by everyone. Again perhaps a side margin banner with 'LIKE" or "DISLIKE" or with four choices: add in 'AGREE' and 'DISAGREE'
I think that would be better than outright removal. Since 'removal wars' would no doubt flair up!

The idea of a tech moderation for what one person thinks is 'right' vs tweaks. (particularly AC tweaks) would end up mired in endless arguments. IMO. I mean it could get to the point of arguing that no one can install their own AC outlets, only a professional can.
Usally folks just chime in with warnings. and folks can decide for themselves if the idea is dangerous.
(Thus everyone here is expected to be smart enough to tie their own shoes... and not in need of a nanny to keep them from harm)

As the place is.. Just fine to me.
The 'report' is just for spam and fragrant viciousness and bigotry, and swearing, and perhaps serious attacks on another member.

One feature from the old AgoN was 'disputes'. IT was always interesting to read them, and to respond like a Judge or jury member.
I liked the feature and wonder what happened to stop it?
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geoffkait
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But what if the OP Is a troll? Would I be out of line if I proposed a short tutorial on how the internet works? 😛
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