Focal Kanta No.2


Focal introduced a new line today beginning with the Kanta No.2. It looks like they're positioning it between the W cone equipped 1000 series and the Sopra. It's got the shape of the older Utopia products before they went segmented. Any thoughts? Curious what people will think when they hear them. 
kosst_amojan
The NRC is a Canadian measurements lab for speakers with NRC standing National Research Council. It was developed by Dr. Floyd Toole, who even JA would refer to as one of the people who defined loudspeaker measurements for modern speakers and currently is employed with Harman Corporation. Harman has a more advanced development of what he started at the NRC. John Atkinson has referenced Dr. Floyd Toole in his own documents on loudspeaker measurements.

Also, look at the NRC charts that Soundstage has published. In the more than fifty speakers measured with 6.5" drivers, not a single unit was able to produce 30hz cleanly without appreciable rise in distortion. It may be negligible at low levels, but it quickly rises above 80db. Could it be done? Yes, I believe it can be made with some extremely expensive materials. I run an FEA lab used for a certain disciplines of engineering and I can tell you about materials that cost is beyond the budget of most loudspeaker implementations. The other factors would pertain to the motor structure in the former, magnet structure, the coil would have to be very high power handling to have extremely long excursion. The surrounds require some impressive roll as well not to mention the spider.

In fact, Focal themselves have pioneered technology into production that does address a number of issues in their EM series drivers, which replaces the permanent magnet with an EM instead. This would allow the motor to reach the excursion required without extreme power loading. If stanene (very new material that holds huge promise) wire would be used, it could really create an incredible powerful motor/field structure. The cone would still require additional rigidity or more of them to spread the load and the suspension would still be a possible issue, but maybe if you implemented suspension via EM with the ability for the former to have a rest position when off, it might work out. Build the former and cone into single solid piece while reinforcing cone. But this wouldn't be in the budget of the Sopra line unless the driver in question went into volume production. I mean tens of millions per year of the very same driver.

I know, its a great deal of techno babble when all you need to is to use larger cones drivers to get there for much less cost. Old engine line, no replacement for displacement. Well, that isn't true any longer and it could possibly be true in speakers at some point. Just not today.
@mmeysarosh 
The only difference between the woofers in my 936's and those in the Kanta No.2 is the motor. They're specifically designed to be more linear at longer excursions. 

But again to my point: there's very little going on in the vast majority of music that needs extension much below 40Hz. A speaker with a low point in the 30's doesn't require a sub in a typical room unless you're absolutely obsessed with overblown bass. The one issue I'm always hearing and reading about with speakers that have active bass systems is that they sound unnatural and require constant adjustment. Given a choice between Kanta No.2's and Golden Ear References, I'm taking the Focal's all day long just because they'll always sound more natural. 
@mtrot Where do you live?  If you live anywhere near the new Axpona location, there are three dealers right around there that have Kantas.   
Techno babble is great fun but like I said originally, after hearing a performance live of the PSO at The Kimmel Center and then listening to the same symphony at home on the Kanta 2’s, it was uncannily similar!  Rarely has that been my experience.

I addressed your point numerous times, part is due to my room configuration and part in musical preferences. I stated as such early on and at this point, your arguing for the sake of and nothing else. For myself, it matters and obviously it appears less so to your or want it to be for some particular reason. 

Golden Ear is agreeably focused on home theater experience and not musical listening. I never even considered them and the products I mention are proper competitors. Take a moment and seek out the Contour 60's. The bass is tight, taught, and isn't over exaggerated in the least bit. Also, the Focal EM drivers aren't active, but he permanent magnet is replaced by an electromagnet and can produce a field with nearly three times the magnetic flux. The issue being the added power requirements, but as I said that with new materials could obviate some of those issues. 

I'm assuming your room isn't large so this might play a role in your preference. It might also be your musical tastes don't present much lower bass demand. Making any assumptions for others is being myopic.