Kosst_, thank you. Yes, we probably listen for different things, and that’s great. There is enough gear out there to please everyone’s preferences. I’m glad that you have found a rig that suits you.
Please Read and express your feelings and opinions....
I noticed that lately or maybe for the last five yrs, there is so much arguments,name calling, attacking cables , speakers , components makers and more, more of disagreement with members, even Audio dealers are being attack here...Very few know how to apologize when they are wrong.What can we do as Audiogon members to improve our communication to each other? How to give the informations, recommendation to members who need it? This is without involving Audiogon, any opinion or ideas , For me this is fun and place to learn in audio...thank you all
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Some Audiogoners (no names) start threads after threads which ask the same questions, over and over and over again. They usually get thoughtful responses, but they, the OPs, don’t seem to learn anything or have the motivation to act on any of the thoughtful responses. At best, "they" seem confused or maybe have too much time on their idle hands. Consequently, they post yet again. And again. Because I visit this website in hopes of learning something useful, and not reading endless echoes, seeing those sorts of posts makes me wonder WTF? So, sometimes I speak up and call it out. I also understand, that I am under no pressure to return to A’gon. :) I also understand that many audiophiles are obsessive and nervous (not yours truly of course) and nothing will temper their insecurities. :) Happy listening, folks! |
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Some Audiogoners (no names) start threads after threads which ask the
same questions, over and over and over again. They usually get
thoughtful responses, but they, the OPs, don’t seem to learn anything or
have the motivation to act on any of the thoughtful responses. At best,
"they" seem confused or maybe have too much time on their idle hands.
" - ps In Audiogon forums, the ratio of the clueless soothing their fragile egos with endless hand waiving nonsense to the knowledgeable citing proven science and mathematical evidence tends to be pretty high. This scenario is clearly not restricted to Audiogon alone. A high percentage of forums possess posters who "command respect from followers" simply because they have several thousand posts under their belt. The fact that most of their contributions have been hand waiving BS intentionally or unintentionally misleading others doesn't seem to matter. The "reputation" and "belief system" are all that counts. And when a newcomer or "unknown" hits the scene with "facts from the big bad world outside", he/she is often scorned, ridiculed, challenged for credentials, or in egregious cases - the "followers" implore moderators to ban the newbie if the newbie presents facts that disagree with the "grand proclamations of resident forum experts". The end result is often persistent ignorance, in many cases, this ignorance persists with basic fundamental subjects that "in the big bad world outside", have been settled long ago and are considered trivial. This fiefdom syndrome is made worse when utterly unqualified salesmen are allowed to pitch their products without any deference to science or facts.The mere fact that they've been pitching the same old garbage for 30 years is supposed to be enough for the "followers" and sadly in many cases, it is. So just as it is with other forums, at Audiogon, there are a significant number of influences that impede technical progress - causing issues to be constantly revisited that should have been settled long ago. |
cj1965 In Audiogon forums, the ratio of the clueless soothing their fragile egos with endless hand waiving nonsense to the knowledgeable citing proven science and mathematical evidence tends to be pretty high ... The fact that most of their contributions have been hand waiving BS intentionally or unintentionally misleading others doesn't seem to matter ... The end result is often persistent ignorance ... with basic fundamental subjects that ... have been settled long ago and are considered trivial. This fiefdom syndrome is made worse when utterly unqualified salesmen are allowed to pitch their products without any deference to science or facts ... there are a significant number of influences that impede technical progress - causing issues to be constantly revisited that should have been settled long ago.This rather reads as though you have appointed yourself judge, jury and executioner. If your conviction is as resolute as you suggest here, I can only ask: Why do you participate in this forum? You've characterized it as an obstacle to the progress you apparently seek. Do you think your protestations will change the forum's content and the way it's moderated? Are you simply here to complain about how audiophiles pursue their hobby? In any event, your assertion that this humble forum has been an impediment to "technical progress" is absurd. Progress inexorably marches on, driven by science and complex factors that dwarf whatever influence this forum and its members have - even in their dreams. |
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