Ethernet Cables, do they make a difference?

kosst_amojan

Usually when somebody presents claims of symptoms that have no basis in reality they’re treated with psychiatric medications. Is that what we should do with people who hear Ethernet and HDMI cables?

Doctors don’t just throw up their arms in frustration when faced with a difficult diagnosis and then simply write a script for psychiatric medication. Instead, they call in other physicians and scientists, often from other specialties, and they work as a team to find the answer. That’s very different from you simply pronouncing others here as crazy.

In some totalitarian systems, people who don’t conform to the government mandated norms are often labelled as crazy, and then pumped up with drugs or sent to a gulag. It sounds like you might like that kind of country - as long as you could remain in charge. Thankfully that isn’t the case here.

@kosst_amojan Because you have asked who says gravity is unimpeachable, I provide this link to Bill Nye, the science guy, and Michio Kaku, astrophysics guy, explaining that gravity is one of nature's four fundamental forces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9FVFh3HYaY
IMO when you are fighting gravity to make your point, you are probably losing ground. But, I admire your feistiness.
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Al  

@astewart8944 
Bill Nye the Lying Guy is hardly any authority on science by training or trade seeing as he's a mechanical engineer. I don't think Kaku's ideas are particularly sensible either given his weird obsession with the nonsensical "many worlds" interpretation of Schrodinger. But since you feel like taking me to task on physics, I'll school you a bit. First, Leonard Suskind is really the man you want to be quoting and citing on the subject of gravity. As far as I can tell, his math and ideas on the subject are the most coherent and explanatory of the phenomenon. But even he'll tell you that gravity is by far the weakest and least understood of all the forces. The theory of gravity has no application whatsoever on the subject of audio gear either, which is why I suspect you groped for that force in particular. The other 3 forces deal with how the atoms of the gear work and transmit energy so their actually applicable to this discussion, though the strong and weak force don't really do much that requires consideration. That leaves us with EM, the most thoroughly tested and understood force. I'm not sure what you're getting at here trying to make an argument about how well proven and understood gravity is, but it's really not. It's almost a misnomer to call it a force seeing as how there's not really a force carrier particle and it may well just be an emergent property arising from dimensions of space that are obscured from our perception. 

@kosst_amojan gravity has pretty big impact is audio world, and in the way we all understand it well - it forces everything (including cables) to go down and end up on the floor close to each other. Believe me - I know, I have jumped out of airplanes and there was no cases of not landing...

And there, on the floor, when cables are close to each other and parallel to each other, EM kicks in.

That is where I can agree that high quality shielding and proper twisting of the pairs can make a difference. But difference in noises reduction.

Hope everyone can agree with my gravity understanding :-)

I didn't even bother to shield the 600VA transformer in my amp. And why? Because Nelson Pass doesn't bother to. And it makes virtually no difference. Twisting is generally the safeguard against crosstalk between signal pairs. For the audio range anything more than 6 twists a foot wastes wire. Shielding on cables is nice, but I found the best results inside my amp to be solid 24g twisted pair. The beefy, high dollar shielded stuff I used at first didn't perform as well. I'm thinking of making interconnects out of that stuff, though they would be stiff as all hell. The speaker cables I built are made of 6 pieces of 16g OFC, wrapped in cloth, round braided, and terminated in gold with silver solder. Those made a surprising difference. Not that I've ever had a problem with cross talk between cables, but I can't seem to make any noise appear on those no matter what I lay them next to. I kinda like making cables.