Magical Marantz 22## receivers


Why is it generally accepted that caps in a vintage speaker crossover should be replaced but some how these mid-fi (at best) 70’s vintage receivers seem to get better (and more expensive) with no maintenance. I would love to see someone bench test one of these beauties with the “tube like” sound.
ripkeith
Mike, those are the primary candidates for that glue I'm talking about. That stuff is just evil. I'm telling ya, if you care much about those units, you'll get that crap out of there. It's eating your traces. It's eating any leads it's touching. And it's becoming conductive itself. Vintage audio forums are chocked full of horror stories because of that glue. I stick to the Marantz stuff because they never used it and you don't have to get into chemicals and hours of meticulously removing that stuff. It's real easy to identify. It almost has the consistency of that expending foam insulation. Lots of air bubbles. It's very hard and cracks and crumbles instead of having any pliability. 
"...And yes they get much better with age."

Seriously? Difficult to substantiate since most don't remember how they sounded when new. I've owned an SX-980 since new and still can't remember...(I do have a good excuse..)

Hi Kosst

The Pioneer SX-3400? Where specifically on this unit? I've been tuning these specific units for many years now without anything failing on any of them. Are you sure they are talking about the 3400?

I'm happy to reinvestigate, I have 4 of these units sitting right here, including one taken completely apart so it will be easy for me to see exactly where you are referring to.

thanks

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

I'm pretty sure Pioneer used it. I might be wrong. I'm certain Sansui used it. They used it for gluing the big caps on. 

Hi Kosst

That's more than likely why. The 3400 doesn't have any bigger caps. I went down to the shop just a few moments ago and looked at a circuit board close up and didn't find any residue. I'm going to have the guys check as well, we're pretty picky about cleaning up boards and parts.

Thanks for the heads up! One thing I love about the biz is, there's always folks out there discovering something useful to add to the mix.

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net