Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


michaelgreenaudio
Sounds like hifi voodoo. Literally. Would like to see the empirical evidence of that. Some kind of cult?

Tuning sounds a like lot what many here would call tweaking.   Semantics I guess.

The mysteries of HEA. Queue the spooky music!

Hi glupson

I don't want to answer for HEA companies, but I will say, that when listeners start to tune their views change quite a bit toward manufacturers. I also know for a fact that many guys and gals who start tuning sell off their massive components and get products that tune easier.

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


To Everything tune, tune, tune eh?  

The tunable speakers are interesting.   How does one tune them and what changes physically with the speaker when you do?

glupson,

I'm sure it didn't escape your notice that MG didn't answer your question.  It's the usual two-step: avoid admitting there is no technical explanation, and turn it in to an opportunity to claim again that it works anyway.

Anyone want to take bets on whether he'll answer my questions? ;-)
Guru’s like to keep things cloaked in mystery I hear  but we’ll see. I asked a pretty straightforward question about the unique advertised feature of one of his products. Should not be hard to answer.