Jazz for aficionados

o10, pleased to see you passed through another valley. May you now find a hilltop to rest upon and look around, enjoying all you see and hear.

Brubeck: long one of my favorite musicians, but not without controversy. In my earliest days as a developing jazz fan he received lots of criticism simply because (I believe) he was so popular. I think that generated a lot of resentment, in some part racial. For me he could swing hard or show beauty and lushness in a ballad. His experiments with time and meter went beyond what anyone else I knew of. Certainly some musicians can be accused of riding the coattails of style or technique developed by others, but I don’t believe that could ever be said of Brubeck. And I find much of his music simply fun.

pjw, I fully agree with your point about dixieland. That was a point I should have raised about some of Teagarden’s recordings, the ones I don’t care for either. But the man could play the blues. And while he never ventured into the bebop he did develop with what I consider more "straight ahead jazz" in the late ’40s, early ’50s, that time spent with Armstrong’s All Stars.  "St. James Infirmary" and "Rockin' Chair" are prime examples.

Frogman, that post was primarily addressed to Rok and his perceptions, which he has stated numerous times.

One's perceptions may or may not have anything to do with "facts", but they are what they are.

I didn't state anything as "fact". What you assumed that I stated as fact, was merely a heightened awareness of the music we call jazz as we listen to it.

Rok's statements and perceptions have often eluded you, just as my post eluded you.

I'm positive using Dave Brubeck's music as an example of what I was trying to get across was spot on; his music lacks "Blacknuss"; but that does not mean that on a scale from 1 to 10, some of his music does not rate a 10.

As "Aficionados" of the highest order we perceive all there is to be perceived in jazz. You jumped to your conclusion by perceiving exactly what I was trying to clarify; that the level of "blacknuss" in the music does not determine the quality of the music.

Since you always missinterpret my posts I'm not surprised that you did the same with this one, but since the post was in regard to Rok's perceptions no point in going any further until Rok responds. (notice no one else responded to that aspect of my post)


Frogman I believe your concern for my health is sincere, even though you were eluded by something intended for Rok.

Pryso I'm glad you share my appreciation of Mr. Brubeck's music, and I think you got where I was coming from.

Schubert, it was a joy to behold your post; it's posts like yours that make my day.

Acman, I can not believe how many times you post albums that I can not understand why I don't already have; that one will be on order, in vinyl I hope; Roland Kirk is the one I don't have.