onkyo RZ...anybody?


Onkyo RZ series..anybody got one?
i think i want one.... maybe about 90-100 watts
the audio performance is supposed to be the real deal
the cats meow
not to be believed

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Sound is based on properties. The pre amp what can reval the most details and layers of a recording is the winner.

Almost all products in audio are 2D on facts. This means that shootouts with a system what can reveal and create a stunning 3D stage based on the other parts of a system. But when the stage DNA of a pre amp proofs to go back to a 2D stage., it is clear that it lacks a 3D stage.

We humans can observe sound in a 3D spectrum. But the facts proof that almost all products are 2D. This proofs how insane audio is regarding to the fact that it differs so much from a 3D realistic stage.
When the RZ products came out we were asked by Onkyo to test them. And we concluded that the stage has gone form 3D to 2D. We can proof this on facts by sound. The facts also proof  that they use cheaper parts inside than in the past.

Audio is all about the properties is owns. We can proof on facts which properties are there and which are missing. By sound we can proof this over and over again. And everyone will be able to understand this.
You should get the following AV receivers if you want to focus on sound quality : 
* Arcam AVR 850 ($6k) & AVR 850 ($3k or $3500). 
* Rotel RAP-1580 ($3800). very heavy 51 lbs. 
*NAD T777 v3 or T787. Somewhere between $3k to $4k. The T787 is also very heavy around 50++ lbs. 
* Cambridge Audio CXR200 ($2k). 
These receivers are not loaded with features and bells & whistles like those Japanese mass produced AV receivers eg: Onkyo/Integra, Denon, Marantz, Pioneer, Yamaha, Sony.
Rather the Arcam, Rotel, NAD & Cambridge focus more on sound quality especially for stereo music performances or playbacks. They also use better quality parts and design circuit topologies than those Japanese mass produced AV receivers. 

However, the new Marantz SR8012 av receiver, which is the flagship Marantz receiver, will probably perform and sound good too and will be the number one choice compared to other Japanese mass produced AV receivers. The Marantz SR8012 currently retails for $3k brand new.