Ohm Walsh Micro Talls: who's actually heard 'em?

Rebbe,

YEs, the Peach is the one without phono and apparently lower possible output impedance also, so that would be the Juicy Music one for you to consider.

Tvad,

I know you've heard a lot of combos and have a good handle on the matching impedance issue between amp and pre.

Do you find that the ratio of amp input to pre-amp output impedance is a reliable indicator of performance? If so, what differences do you hear consistently as this varies? Are there thresholds regarding this ration that can be identified that reliably predict actual performance in certain areas?

Thanks for whatever insight you might offer up on this topic.

The best indicator is bass extension and response (clarity, control).

I've found that 200 ohms or lower works best with most solid state amps having 23k ohm input impedance or higher.

Most preamp manufacturers I have asked have said that an output impedance of up to 500 ohms would be fine, but what I have heard in my system has not confirmed the advice.

In all cases regarding preamp output impedance when used with a solid state preamp, lower has been better.

I have found John Atkinson's test measurements section of Stereophile reviews extremely helpful on this topic. He always addresses output impedance in preamp tests, and input impedance in amplifier tests, and he suggests impedance matching thresholds.

Tvad,

Have you found the better clarity and control extends into the upper frequency ranges as well?

Any downsides that you can identify to go along with the benefits?

This is something I'd really like to test out in my system.

Tvad,

One other question.

Certainly a low pre-amp output impedance seems to make it easier to match more amplifier input impedances, but I wonder is it the absolute value of the preamp output impedance, or the ratio or magnitude of amp input impedance to pre-amp output impedance in the end that matters?