The High End for Under a Grand?



I love the way Doug Schneider (an experienced hard bitten high end reviewer) seems genuinely shocked about the high sound quality of a system coming in for under $1000.

https://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php/opinion/1213-a-feature-rich-fully-modern-hi-fi-system-you-c...

Here’s a quick taster of Doug article or you can simply use the link above to read it in its entirety.

"In the last few years I’ve reviewed some very expensive hi-fi gear (all prices in USD): Constellation Audio’s Revelation Taurus Mono amps ($40,000/pair) and Revelation Pictor preamplifier with optional DC filter ($23,000); EMM Labs’ DA2 Reference digital-to-analog converter ($25,000); Muraudio’s SP1 speakers ($14,700/pair) -- and, still to come EMM Labs’ Pre preamplifier ($25,000) and MTRX2 monoblock ($85,000/pair).

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In short, no audiophile of average income is going to spend $25,000 on a preamp -- but they’re happy to be entertained by reading a review of that preamp. More likely, they’ll be looking for something that costs a lot less -- something for way under $10,000, and perhaps under $2000 or even $1000. It’s reviews of affordable products like these that get read much more often than reviews of most expensive items, as is seen in our statistics. And the average music lover would rather go even lower -- say, an entire system for less than $1000. This is what “normal” folks can actually afford and are willing to spend on hi-fi gear.

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But you might be wondering if it’s even possible, in this era of accelerating price increases for high-end audio, to assemble a good hi-fi system for under a grand.

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I was able to assemble a surprisingly complete, feature-rich, expandable, shockingly good-sounding hi-fi rig with a total US retail price of only $926.95. Its sound is good enough that I think many people would enjoy it -- not only plain ol’ music lovers who just want something that sounds great, but budget-conscious audiophiles as well"


My only concern with this system would be that it’s not full bandwith. As Doug says, it only goes down to about 50Hz.

For me it goes without saying that its almost crying out for better loudspeakers but this article certainly does make me question the relationship between high priced and high end audio.

For music lovers it’s just got to be a great thing to know that high end (near state of the art) sound is well within the reach of almost anyone!

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I have a pair of B&W cdm2se speakers that I got used on eBay for $330 shipped with an Arcam integrated I’ve had for a long time but sells on eBay for $150.  The system sounds great.  I tried the speakers in my main system and they’re lacking a lot compared to my Nautilus 801’s but they’re still really, really good.  The little Arcam is great for low power systems.  So..  I think you can do really well for $500-600.
My third system is an old nad 7020 receiver in very good condition and a pair of similar 80s vintage Boston A40 speakers also recently refoamed and working great.   The sound is very high end. Cost on ebay if found would be under $200 most likely. 
I have a fairly low-priced system I'm running that consists of a pair of Elac Debut B-6's I got for $180 on an Amazon Prime open box sale.I have it hooked up to an older Denon AVR I bought back in the day Circuit City was in business. It was a $500 dollar receiver I got open box for $250. I still have my first Sony Blu-Ray player I bought in about 2006 or 7 for $280 and I play my CD's on it and it never, ever skips. I have all this hooked up yo a Vizio 39 inch 1080 flatscreen and ran thru a smart blu-ray refurbished sony so I can stream netflix, amazon prime and you tube off the net. All in all, it sounds pretty good for what I have in it.
Used NHT SB2s $160
New ONKYO c7030 CD player $155
Creek 4140s2. $600
Total $915

High end? Probably  not. But it sure beats a Magnavox. I believe it gives me 85% of what a bookshelf Spendor/ Neat,/ PCM/ Monitor Audio + Exposure/ Outlaw/ Naim system would offer for a guy who doesn't make more than low to mid 5 digits a year.
This is a debate on the law of diminishing returns. Of course the threshold is different from one person to the next, based on their perception and system functionality requirements.

In the last year, I embarked on a similar quest: to assemble a system (I despise the term “rig”) that hits the above sweet spot for my needs. In my case this was to play only vinyl, in a small-ish room over loudspeakers.

I ended up spending about $2000 on vintage electronics (a Technics SL-1700mk2 that I restored myself, Audio-Technica VM540ML cartridge and bi-amped setup with NAD 3225PE handling the low end and NAD 3020i handling the mid/highs), but my speakers are a late model Energy Reference Connoisseur model. 

For me, to reach that sought-after point of diminishing returns, I had to double the $1000 threshold. That said, it comes down to being in the right place at the right time for vintage gear.