A DAC that crushes price vs. performance ratio

Hey celander,

You do say interesting things in very peculiar ways.  To address your statements:

1) I believe most people in this hobby know that people in the industry, including professional reviewers, get discounts on what they buy for their personal use.  This is not breaking news.

2) If I had to pay full price I still would have purchased the review pieces that brought my system and enjoyment of music to a higher level.  My great interest is finding killer products for reasonable amounts of money.

3) My definition of value is build quality/performance compared to price and if it out performs much more expensive pieces, it's a great bargain.

4) I do not understand your statement at all regarding "investors in boutique audio companies" The owners of these companies have nothing to do regarding the reviewing process.  For a matter of fact, the boutique companies that I have historically setup reviews with did not seek me out at all. I got wind of their products and was highly motivated to review their gear.  The small guys cannot pay for the slick advertising, the website I review for does not tie in advertising dollars as way of getting a review done at all, therefore they are excited and take the risk of a bad review to get the public to know about their product.

@Snopro

Thanks for your comment, Joe. I had considered the possibility of waiting for the SIT-3, but I decided that it wouldn’t be suitable for my purposes.

One reason being its VERY low gain (spec’d at 11.5 db), which would make it a non-starter for my system.

Another being that its power capability (spec’d at 18 watts and 30 watts for 8 ohms and 4 ohms respectively) is probably marginal (or worse) with my speakers, when listening to the many classical symphonic recordings that are in my collection that have been engineered with minimal or no dynamic compression, on labels such as Telarc, Reference Recordings, Sheffield Labs, Chesky, etc. In fact I might not have purchased the XA25 were it not for John Atkinson’s measurements which indicated a maximum power capability (presumably after leaving class A) of 80 watts and 130 watts into 8 and 4 ohms respectively. (My speakers are spec’d at 97.5 db, with a nominal impedance of 6 ohms, and are said to be close to that impedance throughout almost all of the frequency range).

Best regards,
-- Al

Hey snopro,

I'm on the list to get the SIT3 for review.  Everyone, that I trust their ears liked it very much.  However, it's a very different amp compared to the XA-25 regarding what speakers you can drive and control over the bottom end and overall dB levels. 

My SIT2 is a wonderful amplifier, however it has to be used with the right speaker to really be able to shine.  The SIT3 has more watts then the SIT2, so it's more flexible regarding what you can drive with it.

Almarg, I have Horning Eufrodite Ellipse speakers, which I run with 300b's and Pass XA-30.8. My Supratek Sauvignon has adjustments for gain, so I should have no problems.

Teajay, looking forward to your review once you get the amp.

Sorry for going of topic.

Joe

I notice the Lab 12 DAC1 has been around for at least 5 years.  Does anyone know if it's changed in any meaningful way?