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Duleland break in time

Hi I did a double biwire configuration using Duleland 12 guage tinned copper wire. I imideatly disliked the sound as compared to my Nordost Heimdall. So my question is do they need more"burn in" time or should I chalk it to experience?
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Mark
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grannyring
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@mitch2

You have a lot of wire at home 🙂

Great stuff and I so appreciate your efforts. You will be interested to know my current configuration. It is my favorite thus far. My Dali Epicon 6 speakers are biwire. I had always used two separate cable runs for true biwire hook up until about a month ago. Here is what I did.

I have a double run of the WE10 (7 gauge) going into the bass posts only. Two twisted pairs combined at the banana connectors. I then jump up to the highs with my new Duelund jumpers. The jumpers are made with four 16ga stranded and tinned Duelund conductors and Furutech spades.  The sound is fantastic. Yes, even better than biwire (WE10) on my particular set of speakers.
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The KLEI will need some 150 hours before some initial brightness completely disappears. I know you use a cooker, but wanted you to know. After that they sound very neutral as if using bare wire only. I have used these on 16,12, and 10 gauge WE and Duelund wire with great results. I do not think they can accommodate the combination of two WE10 stranded wires. They accommodate a properly solder tinned 10 ga WE wire almost perfectly with little room for a second as I recall. 
mitch2
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Thanks for the tips grannyring.  After considering, I plan to make two separate star-quad sets so I will not need to terminate 4x10 awg wires together at the amp end.  One set will need to stack so at least one set will need bananas at the amp end.  KLEI says 6 awg will fit but I will ask the folks at Partsconnexion.  Not sure what else I can get 7 awg into.  If the FP-201s or KLEIs don’t work, then I suppose I could twist the two 10 awg wires together, tin them, and then soldier them to Cardas GRS spades.  Thanks again for your insight on the KLEI bananas.
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These fit two WE10 wires. I use them. Slightly on the warmish side in SQ. Set screws.

http://www.soniccraft.com/product_info.php/neotech-ncb-80-banana-p-4053?osCsid=eaa2da58afeabf3d0e8d4...

http://www.soniccraft.com/product_info.php/neotech-sk-8y-spade-p-2020

I have not tried these, but they accommodate 5 gauge. They have spades and other choices also....

https://www.douglasconnection.com/Furez-TSTWP48XLNP-Bare-Copper-Banana-Plug-Connectors-Pair-FZTSTWP4...

I use the KLEI on a weekly basis and just cannot imagine 2 of the WEs fitting. You would have to open up the split cut bottom tube used for soldering and then it would. It just would not fit back into the plastic case. Could you fit a nice clean solid core 6 gauge? Perhaps, but two finely stranded 10 gauge conductors is a much different reality as you know. 
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