Consider a cartridge by Hana; they are said to be outstanding and for petite cash.
Hanna made by Excel Sound in Japan, this is an old OEM manufacturer, Mr.Fremer visited them and made a video, watch it here.
The nightmare of the cartridge buyer...
Consider a cartridge by Hana; they are said to be outstanding and for petite cash. Hanna made by Excel Sound in Japan, this is an old OEM manufacturer, Mr.Fremer visited them and made a video, watch it here. |
@daveyf - you do like to post provocative matter, don't you? I don't regard the "high-end cartridge" pricing as reasonable, but I also don't think there's much we can do about it. The prices in Japan for cartridges from that country are, I believe, pretty much what the importer here in the States pays- the rest is mark-up for the middlemen- the distributor, and the retailer. I doubt very many people pay full retail for a top tier cartridge, but even at a discount, a cartridge with a 10-15k retail price is obscene. So, what are the alternatives? Beer budget, like the Hana, or lower priced models within a line you like? Retips by someone other than the factory, e.g., Peter at Soundsmith? MM or MI cartridges? I get that you were not looking for advice, and that your post was more in the nature of a rant, but that said, why snipe at folks who are offering alternatives? We are all in the same boat. We either pay the freight or find an alternative. I suspect if you get Jonathan Carr on here, he'll tell you these things --at least the top tier ones using unobtanium materials-- have a very low production, are in many cases made by ancient Japanese craftsmen who hand make each piece, and that the market for them is relatively limited. Whether or not you believe that, I don't know that there is much you can do, other than go gray market, retip or change your cartridge preference. It is true that you can't meaningfully hear a cartridge other than a fly-by at a dealers, but i have had a dealer in the past who insisted I would like an Airtight over a Lyra; he brought it, installed it, and I agreed. (In at least one other instance, he brought over a piece and I didn't think it bettered my existing piece and I nixed it). You pay for that service, one way or the other. (Which is why some people will take whatever risk exists with the gray market and others won't- wanting to know that they have support if something goes awry). My only observation and this is based on knowing you a bit from What'sBest, etc., is that taking shots at people and "LoL'ing" isn't exactly constructive. But, that's your choice. |
daveyF, a rip off is when someone offers something for sale and misrepresents what it is. If I offer you a Rolex and what I sell you is a cheap imitation then I ripped you off. If I offer you a Rolex at full retail + 20% because it is a rare watch, and you agree to buy it , then no matter what anybody thinks about the value you got for your money, you got exactly what what you intended to buy and that is not a rip off. Is a night at the Waldorf Astoria worth $600 when you can stay at Motel 6 for $59? Is a bottle of Opus One wine worth $300 when you can get a bottle of red for $3? Is the Rolex worth $30K when you can get a Timex for $25 that probably keeps better time? getting fools to part with their money is not ripping them off as long as you are not deceiving them. |