tooblue, When you say "the same cartridge", do you refer to the Grace Ruby, or which other? If the Grace Ruby, you evidently chose to put a boron cantilever on it. Now it's a Grace Boron. Neither cartridge is now "stock", but I do own a second Grace Ruby that has still got its OEM cantilever and stylus. IMO, it sounds a bit different from the SS re-tipped one. Maybe more top to bottom "continuous" (in HPs terminology) but less exciting and less "you are there".