Turntable got absolutely crushed by CD


Long story short, i've just brought home a VPI classic 1 mounted with a Zu-Denon DL103 on JMW Memorial 10.5 with the appropriate heavier counterweight. Had everything dialed in..perfect azimuth, VTF, overhang, with only a slightly higher than perfect VTA. Levelling checked. All good. 

I did a comparison between the VPI and my Esoteric X03SE and it's not even close. The Esoteric completely crushes the VPI in all regards. The level of treble refinement, air, decay, soundstage depth and width, seperation, tonality, overall coherence is just a simply a league above from what I'm hearing from the VPI. The only area the VPI seems to be better at is bass weight, but not by much. 

I'm honestly quite dumbfounded here. I've always believed that analogue should be superior to digital. I know the Esoteric is a much pricier item but the VPI classic is supposed to be a very good turntable and shouldn't be a slouch either. At this point I feel like I should give up on analogue playback and invest further in digital. 

Has anyone had a similar experience comparing the best of digital to a very good analogue setup?

Equipment:
Esoteric X03SE 
VPI Classic, JMW Memorial 10.5, Zu-DL103
Accuphase C200L
Accuphase P600
AR 90 speakers

Test Record/CD:
Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing (Redbook vs MOV 180g reissue)



chadsort
I agree rauliruegas. I like both when they recorded and mastered correctly.

When I record a chamber group and choirs, I use a near field technique. When I record an orchestra, I use a mid-field technique but close to row 3 through 7. I do not place mics above the orchestra 10’ like so many current recording engineers do.

I do not record in the Yarlung recording method which is so amophous sounding compared to the classic Decca, Living Stereo and Living Presence techniques.  Yarlung records deep into a hall and way above the musicians heads.  Yuk.  But they do master what they've recorded well (especially Steve Hoffman work).

I once considered CDs inferior sounding, until about 1995 when I acquired higher end CD playback equipment. By 2005, I fell in love with well mastered CD sound as much as LPs..
Music heritage recorded in analog, mastered in analog and released in analog has much longer history. That was the one and only standard for all recordings made in the golden age. Fact? Yes

When anyone is talking about Digital, claimed is better than Analog you’re talking about recordings made in the beggining of the digital era and til the presend day. You’re all agree that digital in the 80’s and digital today is not the same quality, there is an improvement in modern digital standards. Fact ? Yes

When we’re talking about fidelity we don’t want our analog source (decent records from the 70s) to be digitally remastered for some reason other than to sell them again in digital format by the labels, claimed they are even better.

I am sure there is no problem in modern music originally recorded in digital in top quality and released in digital. This is fine!

But when you’re talking about music heritage such as amazing albums recorded 40-50 years ago in analog and release originally on vinyl, i hope you understand that this is much better than a digital copy?

So please don’t mix together new digital music that you can copy with no loss in fidelity and analog heritage (recorded prior to digital era in ) that is better to have on original source as vinyl (or tape if you will ever find it).

Personally i don’t need a digital copy of whatever quality, made from the analog album recorded in analog in 1969, if i can buy an original vinyl. Digital reissue is always inferior compared to a decent original vinyl. 

-In my opinion digital is for new music recorded digitally in the digital era. 
-Analog is for music heritage recorded in analog at least 40 years ago. 

P.S. For some reason many modern live bands make their recordings in analog on mastertape using vintage studio equipment. Even in music industry analog is not replaced by digital even in 2018. 








I use digital recording equipment now.  Even the DCC recordings made in the 1990s sounded great.  I still have a Tandberg 9100 and a Pioneer 1500 for playback.  That Tandberg made some great recordings back in 1980s, better than early digital by a mile.

The reason I prefer many CDs to LP originals is due to remastering and unavailable good pressings.  Some of our great remastering engineers use the mastertapes without the LP compression and know what their doing with e.q. and multi-track mixing.  The other reason is that many of my great performances originally on LP had crappy pressings and the CD eliminates that hindrance to musical pleasure.  

Most of my collection, both 78s and LPs are not and will never be transferred to CD due to economic reasons and limited demand.
I hope analog recording stays alive. Question is how many audiophiles are prepared to pay $100 for a record with excellent music and great recording ? Or $200 ? I am, a few records a year, no more. And I would need to listen to it before buying, entire record not samples.
Despite my rather large collection, I rarely paid more than $25 for a record, 78 or CD.  Most of my collection was acquired between $1 and $10 each.  I listen every day for 1 to 2 hours.  That's my wealth, having the time after working, etc., to listen, not the cost per unit.  True from junior high through law school (restricted to chamber and non-vocal classical music and jazz while studying).  I'm 62 now so I've been privileged to hear a lot of music besides performing and recording.